Gangs. Some of them fought for race and identity, others for money, but the majority so they can f*ck sh*t up! As part of the homeless initiative started by the admins, I... Killermoves is doing my best to also help with the rampant homelessness that plagues this site.
Bloods, One of the most-well known African-American gang who turned Southcentral L.A. into a battlefield!
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Waray-Waray Gangs, Legendary bandits in the Philippines who left a trail of dead police in their wake!
WHO IS DEADLIEST?!
Bloods[]
The Bloods are a street gang founded in Los Angeles, California. The gang is widely known for its rivalry with the Crips, and are identified by the red color worn by their members and by particular gang symbols, including distinctive hand signs. Various sub-groups known as "sets" makes up the whole gang, with significant differences such as colors, clothing, and operations, and political ideas which may be in open conflict with each other. Since their creation, the Blood gangs have branched out throughout the United States, and in later years similar "Bloods" gang who may or may not be associated with the gang, exist outside of America.
The origins of the Bloods can be traced back, oddly enough, to the creation of their archrivals the Crips. The latter gang started terrorizing Southcentral Los Angeles in the 70s-80s, attacking and robbing people in a tradition they called "Cripping". In Piru Street, a group of disgruntled Black youths and smaller gangs banded together to fight back against the Crips, creating the first set of the now famous Bloods gang. The formation of this new gang led to decades of gang warfare against the Crips, and later Latino gangs who rose to power in the 2000s.
What made the Bloods distinct compared to the Crips was their more centralized and "family-oriented" characteristics (the term "Blood" actually meant "Family" in African-American slang at the time). Unlike the Crips who were made up of separate, independent, and often warring sets, the Bloods prided themselves to being more organized (although in-fighting between the Bloods also exist). They are also one of the few gangs who have a documented presence in the U.S. Military, and many of these gangsters had military training. Family orientation and noble origins aside, the Bloods also proved to be more brutal than all African-American gangs, and they were the forefront of some of the deadliest gangland shootings, such as the 54th Street Massacre in 1984 and the Halloween Massacre in 1993, in which innocent black children were killed. They were also present during the deadly Los Angeles Uprising in 1992.
Besides being a street gang and an organized crime group, the Bloods also earn money from their lucrative hip-hop musical industry. Indeed, the Bloods have quite the influence on what would become modern day hip hop. Although not an official Bloods member, one of the greatest rappers of all time Tupac Shakur, was highly associated with the gang.
AK-47
- 7.62×39mm
- 715 m/s muzzle velocity
- 30-round box magazine
- 600 rds/min
- 380 yd effective range
- Fun Fact: This was the favorite weapon used by the "Gangster Killer Bloods", a subset in the Southern US. They used AK-47s in a street battle once against the Folk Nation gang.
54th Street Massacre (1984)
- Like many urban street gangs in the US, the Bloods were notoriously handy when it came to urban gang warfare. Their main method of attack is ambushing their enemies when the latter least expect it, such as drive-by killings, shooting them inside their cars during traffic, sneaking up on them in the street/clubs, or most gruesomely, shooting them in their own homes. They would then retreat before the rival gang can fire back or before the arrival of cops. Most of these attacks are hate-fueled and lacked discipline, since innocent civilians were usually involved.
- The most infamous example happened on October 12, 1984 in a suburbia in Los Angeles. Gangster Ase Capone and other Bloods members were searching for a group of Crips who stole Capone's car, and they stumbled upon some Crips who were enjoying a birthday party inside their house. The Bloods quickly parked their car in front of the house, got out and sprayed the people there with rifles and shotguns. They then returned to their car and sped away, as the Crips started shooting back and calling 911. By the end of the ambush, 5 people laid dead (two of them were Crips, the rest were innocent kids), and another 5 were wounded. The Los Angeles Times called the shooting "the deadliest gang violence in Los Angeles history".
Waray-Waray Gangs[]
Waray-Waray Gangs is a term used in the Philippines to denote of street gangs and criminal syndicates who are of Waray ethnicity. They originated from provinces Leyte and Samar where the majority are of Waray background. Most of their criminal activities involved armed robberies of highways and establishments, but they also dabbled in kidnapping, assassinations and narcotics sale in modern times. They are considered by many however, to be the the most dangerous gang in the country due to a long career of violence against law enforcement.
Much of the beginnings of these gangs can be traced back to the 90s, where the economy of the Philippines was in an all-time low. The crippling poverty of the time, especially to those of faraway provinces where the Warays lived, caused many to form or join a gang. Hold-ups were the primary activity, where they would rob cars and trucks in rural roads, as well as banks and stores in urban areas. During the start of the new millennium, many of these Waray gangs emigrated to larger and richer provinces in the North, including Manila.
It was around these times where the Waray gangs got their notoriety and "anti-authoritarian" perception. Multiples shootouts between gangs and the police were recorded throughout the late 90s to the early 2000s. The most vicious of these happened in Meycauayan, Bulacan in 2002, where a gang known as the "Waray-Abuyog Gang" opened fire on a police station which resulted in the deaths of 4 cops. In Paranaque in 2008, Waray gangs and policemen were involved in a shootout which resulted in the deaths of 16 people. At one point a Waray gang kidnapped and killed Betti Chua Sy, a finance manager of Coca-Cola Export Corp, leading to the National Bureau of Investigation to name them "the most active kidnap gang in the country".
By 2014 however, much of the identity of the Waray-Waray gangs were lost after House Bill No. 3691 was passed, making it illegal to name gangs after ethnicity or religion due to racism. However, gangs of Waray ethnicity still persisted post-2010s. In 2018 for example, Waray gangs were reported by Chief Supt. Edward Caranza as "gun-for-hire" that targeted local chief executives and potential political candidates.
Filipino M-16 Baby Armalite
- 5.56×45mm NATO
- 960 m/s muzzle velocity
- 30-round box magazine
- 700 rds/min
- 546 yd effective range
- Fun Fact: The Waray-Abuyog Gang and the Alfredo Mondares Waray-Ozamis Gang favored this assault weapon.
Battle of Meycauayan (2002)
- Various Waray-Waray gangs are experts when it comes to "hold-ups" and armed robberies. Usually they are of the highwaymen variant, seizing and robbing people and vehicles on urban and rural highways. But at times, with the right planning they can also perform serious calculated tactics that are like straight-up taken from films and shows such as "La Casa De Papel". The only difference is that unlike legendary social bandits and gentlemen thieves, when a Waray gangster robs someone, death and property damage usually occurred.
- The deadliest example happened on April 13, 2002 in a community precinct in Meycauayan, Bulacan. An unknown van parked itself in the vicinity of the precinct, in which a group of armed men wearing military uniforms came out. At that time, the police inside the station did not mind these gunmen because they thought that this was like any normal army checkpoint operation. However, the gunmen soon started firing their assault rifles on the police station, killing 4 policemen instantly, while wounding and scattering the others, before escaping in their van. Investigators later found out that this was just a diversion. The bandidos were actually robbing a large jewelry store in downtown Meycauyan, but they first attacked the precinct not only to take out the cops inside that might respond to the robbery, but also to lure the other policemen into this area while they escape with the loot.
X-Factors[]
The Bloods gang seemed to have a more defined training compared to the more mysterious Waray gang. There have been documented cases of Blood gangsters enlisting inside the military, many of whom brought their training in the streets (they have a whole documentary in the Gangland show about that). While there were Waray Waray gangsters who were in the Philippine Army, like Eliseo Barres and Alfredo Mondares, these are only a few who are recorded as such. Most of these bandidos basically only have their "street training" with them. The Bloods on the other hand, have a whole culture inside the U.S. Military, not just in the army but also in the marines etc.
Even those Bloods who have no military training were still honed by the gang to be tough. In order for the gang to be a member, they must survive what is known as a "Beat In", an initiation/tradition where a recruit must survive getting literally beaten up by 2 or more gangsters for 31 seconds in a secluded area. The 31 seconds represent the thirty-one rules that they have to follow. Many of them are also trained in the 52 Blocks martial art that is common in American penetentiaries.
Both gangs are defined by their "fuck da police" attitude, but if you look at them more closely, the Waray-Waray gangs has more experience in shootouts than the Bloods (the way I see it anyways). Most of the Bloods gunfight are up against other gangs such as the Crips, Folk Nation, and many Latino street gangs. They seldom fought the police, and if they did get into a shootout with law enforcement, it was mostly because of self-defense like a buy bust operation, police raid or inspection (such as the killing of Officer Brian Mulkeen). We can argue that some of the military-trained Bloods might have military experience, but they are a minority compared to the 20,000 other Bloods members.
The thing about the Waray gangs is that all gangs have a history of fighting against the police, not just defensively. As was the case of the Meycauayan shootout, they even actively target policemen intentionally. They even had a shootout with the police in Paranaque on 2008 that resulted in the deaths of 16 people. The Waray gangs didn't just fought ordinary cops, they also fought SWATs and specialized crime units, seen during a shootout with the Criminal Investigation and Detection Group in the same year as the Meycauayan shootout. This also meant that they got into more gunfights with better trained units than the Bloods who are mostly stuck fighting against other street gangs.This one is pretty much harder to define. Both Bloods and Warays earn funding from robbery and drugs, which they then use to buy their arsenal. There are some key differences though. The Bloods also get a lot of dough from their hip-hop industry (ehem 6ix9ine), which we all know is one of the most popular genres in modern times. The Waray gangs though, if you actually believed what the Philippine National Police say, were sometimes hired by rich politicians and businessmen as hired guns and assassins.
Unlike logistics, this one is easy. No matter how much many policemen, the Waray gangs are not as brutal as the Bloods were They are more calculating IMO, but they don't have the same ballsy blood lust that the Bloods have. Let's just take a look at some of their worse cases. During the 1993 Halloween Massacre, the Bloods mistook a group of 3 trick-or-treating boys as Crips and gunned them down. These innocent kids were of ages 13-14 yrs old. When the leaders of the Bloods were sent to court (who were grown-ass men in their 30s who killed kids), they showed no remorse and at one point even jeered and laughed at the parents of the kids who were slain.
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- For this match-up, I will be using the West Coast OG Bloods and the Waray-Abuyog Gang, both during the 1990s-2000s (since we all know that these gangs are not only one criminal organization, they are made up of many).
- The battle will not start off immediately as a gunfight. In order to take consideration of tactics, the gangsters will be stalking each other in a small part of neutral city. Scenario will be this, both gangs were hired by someone to take each other out. They don't have knowledge of who their opponents are except that the Bloods are looking for some "Pinoy bustas" while the Warays were hired to kill an African-American gang. Like any urban gang warfare-esque scenario, the gangs also have to contend with the police if they are not careful.
- Oh and yeah... battle will be 5 vs 5, standard Deadliest Warrior format.
Battle[]
In a small insignificant highway in the middle of downtown, five members of the Bloods can be seen chilling in a parking bench. In full view of the pedestrians and neutrals walking by, they happily smoked their joints and weeds without much care in the world. They were supposed to be looking for a group of Filipino thugs by their OG. Huge amounts of money was going to be paid to them if they accomplished their mission, but after 4 hours of driving and searching the Bloods decided to fuck it and take a load off for a while.
They didn't know however, that their opponents were not as lazy and unmotivated. Waray-Waray gangsters were also hired by an unknown party to take out a group of African-American gangsters. They were also given permission to take whatever drugs or money they can scavenge from their kills, which would add more to what they were being paid for. This would help them send money to the poor families back in their province.
Inside a white van, four Waray-Waray gangsters stalked the place looking for the Bloods. The driver spotted a group of African-Americans in red who were sitting in a bench on the side of the street. Those fools... by wearing their colors they became easily distinguishable in this river of people. These African-Americans were right in the open, which made the job much easier. The Waray-Waray gangsters rolled by slowly on the road, carefully approaching the Bloods while preparing their weapons. One of the Bloods saw the van slowly approaching them and became uneasy, and he told the other Bloods to be vigilant.
As the van parked itself right in front of the bench, the Waray-Waray gangsters got out and unleashed hell with their M16 rifles and Tec-9s. The Bloods quickly pulled their guns the moment they saw them and they too fired back with their AK-47s and Remington shotguns. One Blood was riddled and cut completely in half with a barrage of rifle bullets to his stomach, while a Waray-Waray gangster got his head blown up with a shotgun.
Screaming in rage, the Bloods continued to empty their magazines on the Waray-Waray gangsters. The resiliency of the Bloods proved too much for the Waray-Waray gangsters and they started to get back to the van. Quickly, they drove away as the gangsters continued to open fire. Another Waray-Waray gangster got clipped in the head as the van tried to escape, and the others had to chuck his body on the road to prevent any dead weight.
The Bloods also got into their SUV and gave chase, and a long running gun battle ensued. With their machine guns and pistols, the two sides continued to pour lead as they drove furiously on the road. The Bloods tried to fire their Glocks and Remingtons but they lacked the range in this firefight. The Waray-Waray gangsters had no problems though with their Tec-9s, and one Blood riding shotgun was hit with well-placed shots in his chest. The two sides continued to fire each other as they swerved through the traffic. They drifted around the corners and maneuvered through the cars in the highway. They were like in a Fast and Furious movie.
One Waray-Waray gangster at the back carefully aimed his M1911 at the Blood's SUV. He got a bullseye as his bullet hit a Bloods member at the backseat in the neck. "Blood!" The others cried as they lost another one of their brethren and they have had enough. As the driver continued driving and dodging bullets being fired upon them by the Waray-Waray gangsters, the other Blood moved to the passenger seat and started to break the windshield open. The moment the glass broke, fast-paced winds blasted the Bloods' face, but it was worth it though as the Blood was now capable of using his AK-47. A burst form his rifle got a lucky direct hit as a bullet penetrated the back of the driver's head.
The remaining Waray-Waray gangster inside the car tried to take control of the van. As the Bloods watched, the van started to slow down. It made a turn to the right before stopping in an alleyway. Thinking that they have won, the Bloods got out of their SUVs and charged the van. The remaining Waray-Waray gangster, disoriented and fatigued, wobbled his way out of the vehicle. He was soon beset by the Bloods carrying baseball bats. He quickly drew his machete and managed to jam it at the neck of a Blood, killing him in a gory and bloody fountain of death. But a baseball bat then slammed itself on his jaw, tearing and loping it away. The remaining Blood poured all of his anger and strength as he bashed the head of the Waray-Waray gangster. The beating was so intense that his limbs were like broken twigs and nothing remained of his head besides a salsa of brain matter, eyes and skull fragments.
The Blood started to celebrate by raising his baseball bat in the air, but unknown to him there was another Waray-Waray gangster in the alleyway. It seemed that he has been there the whole time, and the van was supposed to lure the gangsters there so he can ambush them. Although the ferocity if these Africa-Americans created quite the casualties on his group, the remaining Waray-Waray gangster was still determined to finish the job for his fallen friends. The Blood stopped celebrating the moment he saw the Waray-Waray gangster in a balcony with an M16 aimed at his face. Before he can yell, his skull was soon shattered like a coconut as the Waray-Waray gangster emptied his whole magazine.
With the Bloods dead, the final Waray-Waray gangster spat at the former's corpse and yelled, "Mga yawa kamo!"
Winner: Waray-Waray Gang
Expert's Opinion[]
Although the Bloods have an advantage in training and in close quarters with their baseball bats and glocks, these were the only advantage that they have. The Waray-Warays took everything else from automatic weapons, tactics and experience. They were more aggressive and crafty hence why they won.