- 1 Deadliest Fiction: JTF2 vs Green Berets
- 1.1 This battle features JFT2, Canada’s deadly SOF commandos, renowned for their training, secrecy, and proven track record.They have fought everywhere from Haiti to Afghanistan since 1993. They are against: the U.S. Special forces, known otherwise as the Green Berets; tough SOF soldiers known for their skill and unconventional tactics. They have fought for
- 1.2 the U.S. since 1953; most notably in Vietnam. Who is deadliest?
- 2 More Information
- 2.1 JTF2
- 2.2 - Traces its roots to the Canadian/American "Devil's Brigade" in WW2
- 2.3 -Recruits from the Canadian Armed Forces
- 2.4 - Approximately 2 / 10 candidates pass selection
- 2.5 -Has served in Haiti, Afghanistan, Bosnia, and Iraq
- 2.6 -During operations in Afghanistan, JTF2 was the only foreign unit accepted to fight directly alongside American tier 1 spec ops units (such as the Navy Seals). Their work involved hunting down dangerous individuals. (reported by Sean Maloney's book Enduring Freedom).
- 2.7 Green Berets
- 2.8 - Established in 1952, soon after the establishment of the psychological warfare school as the 10th Special Forces Group (airborne).
- 2.9 - Began Service in 1953 and have since fought in Vietnam, El Salvador, Panama, Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan.
- 2.10 -Known for their unconventional tactics and survival skills.
- 3 Weapons
- 4 Weapons: EDGE
- 5 X-Factors
- 6 Voting is now closed
- 7 WINNER: JTF2
This battle features JFT2, Canada’s deadly SOF commandos, renowned for their training, secrecy, and proven track record.They have fought everywhere from Haiti to Afghanistan since 1993. They are against: the U.S. Special forces, known otherwise as the Green Berets; tough SOF soldiers known for their skill and unconventional tactics. They have fought for
the U.S. since 1953; most notably in Vietnam. Who is deadliest?
- Traces its roots to the Canadian/American "Devil's Brigade" in WW2
-Recruits from the Canadian Armed Forces
- Approximately 2 / 10 candidates pass selection
-Has served in Haiti, Afghanistan, Bosnia, and Iraq
- Established in 1952, soon after the establishment of the psychological warfare school as the 10th Special Forces Group (airborne).
- Began Service in 1953 and have since fought in Vietnam, El Salvador, Panama, Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Iraq and Afghanistan.
-Known for their unconventional tactics and survival skills.
|Tac-50||C8 Carbine||Sig Sauer||Benelli|
|Green Berets||MKR SPR||M4A1||M9 Beretta||M203|
|Long Range Weapon||EDGE: Green Berets. The MKR is lighter and has a larger magazine capacity. It is also semi-automatic, whereas the Tac is bolt-action. But the Tac-50 does have a better range.|
|Medium Range Weapon||EDGE: JTF2, but only very slightly. The two weapons are both very similar. Magazine capacities are the same, rate of fire very similar. However, the C8 is lighter, making it easier to maneuver.|
|Short Range Weapons||EDGE:JTF2. The Sig Sauer has a higher muzzle velocity and is lighter, making it easier to maneuver in tight spaces.|
|Special Weapons||EDGE:Green Berets. The M203 is an underslung attachment to the M4 carbine which can fire a variety of grenades, or even buckshot. Also, it is attached to the M4 weapons, which means that they do not need a soldier to carry it himself. It is also far more versatile than the Benelli, making it by far the better special weapon.|
The Green Berets score higher for discipline.
|79||87||When JTF2 was founded in 1992, many of it's first recruits had already served in the Canadian Army. However, the Berets have existed since 1953.|
|94||90||The Canadian army is well known for it's very rigorous training. The Green Berets also train very hard as an elite unit.|
|Secrecy||97||75||The public knows next to nothing about JTF2.|
|90||87||JTF2 must be very good survivalists given their work in the Canadian arctic. The Green Berets are also extremely skilled.|
Voting is now closed
The cold, black waters of the Arctic Ocean are disturbed by the hum of propellers. A large cargo vessel cuts through the water as water churns behind it as it approaches the northern coast of Canada. It is late at night, and the temperature is chilling. The vessel’s benign appearance hides something more dangerous: 7 elite U.S. Army soldiers, members of the infamous Green Berets, are hiding on the bridge and below deck. They are on a mission, attempting to infiltrate the Canadian Arctic using a civilian vessel. Four of them stand on the bridge shifting uneasily, their muscles tense and eyes scanning the waves with night vision.
Meanwhile, 7 members of Canada’s elite SOF unit, JTF2, are flying behind them in an old Sea King helicopter. They face each other, stony-faced, as they prepare to rappel from the helicopter onto the deck of the suspicious vessel. The pilot increases speed as the helicopter’s blades begin to make the water below it ripple and churn. The ancient aircraft begins to hum and vibrate from the stress. Finally, the silhouette of a civilian cargo ship begins to take shape on the horizon. The soldiers silently make eye contact, acknowledging their impending battle. Their palms sweat inside their gloves as they hold onto the ropes which are about to take them onto the suspect ship. The soldiers scowl into the distance.
The Green Berets soldiers standing guard suddenly look at each other in apprehension. The commander signals to his subordinates, and they take cover. He communicates to the rest of the team to do likewise. They turn of the safety on their weapons and shift their grips. The helicopter flies over the ship, and pauses to hover over the deck. Suddenly, 7 men clad in black tactical gear rappel out of the chopper onto the icy deck of the ship. They quickly take cover behind deck hatches, lifeboats, and equipment left on the deck. They unclip themselves from their ropes and raise their weapons, scanning the ship’s bridge, above them. Suddenly, gunfire erupts from the window of the bridge, catching the Canadians by surprise. They return fire with their C8 assault rifles. Suddenly, a JTF2 operator drops lifeless to the deck as a Green Beret shooter hits his mark with the MKR sniper rifle.
The Canadian counter-sniper assembles and loads his Tac-50. He aims it into the windshield on the bridge of the ship. Meanwhile, another JTF2 soldier sets his weapon to automatic. The two of them provide suppressing fire towards the enemy as the other 4 advance in formation across the deck and climb the stairs leading up to the bridge. The Canadian counter-sniper manages to eliminate the Green Beret sniper with the Tac-50. As the Canadians reach the door of the bridge, they throw a flashbang grenade through the window into the bridge. There is an ear-shattering noise, and a flash of bright light before 4 JTF2 operatives burst into the door with their pistols drawn. Immediately a JTF2 operative falls dead to the floor, felled by an M4. A JTF2 armed with the Benelli shotgun fires 2 shots rapidly, eliminating two Green Berets. The Green Beret commander fires a smoke grenade with his M203 and retreats, running down the stairs. From the deck, he runs down a hatch into the hold of the vessel. The Canadian commandos communicate over the radio to their colleagues, telling them what happened. The remaining 5 Canadians climb into the hold of the ship via a seperate hatch.
The JTF2 soldier aims through his sight. He quickly acquires his target and gets his crosshairs on the head of the Green Beret. He squeezes the trigger and holds it down for a 2-second burst then lets go, watching as the last Green Beret falls to the deck.
This was a pretty close match, but at the end of the day JTF2 is probably just designed as a more elite unit than the U.S. spec ops, whereas a unit more like the SEALS might be a better match. A large factor in this battle was the tough training required by the Canadian forces, and especially the the endurance required to fight in an arctic environment, which JTF2 is well trained for. While the Green Berets are certainly trained to an extremely high standard, the Canadians had that extra push when it comes to physical endurance. However, the Berets's famously unconventional and resourceful tactics were on full display in this battle, using a civillian vessel to infiltrate a country. Thankfully, Canada and the USA are friends & allies, and this battle would not happen in real life, as Canada and the US will be forever fighting on the same side.