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My last battle was not received well but I plan to make my redemption run! And what else than a battle between superheroes!

Fictional teams are composed of many members. There's the leader, lancer, brains, support, marksman, etc. But none is as iconic and tragic as the muscle. Today, we will pit two orange strongmen from Marvel and DC to the death! Both are from legendary comic book teams. Both were allegedly copied from one another. And both are here to die for our entertainment (mwahahahaha)

The Thing! Rock-skinned superhero from Fantastic Four!

VS

Robotman! Cybernetic fist-fighter from Doom Patrol!

Who is the deadlier muscle?!

Thing

It's clobberin' time!

Benjamin Jacob "Ben" Grimm, better known as the Thing, is a founding member of the Fantastic Four, a superhero group of scientists tasked with investigating and fighting scientific anomalies and villains.

Born into poverty and troubled youth, Ben spent many days on the street as the head of a small gang of thugs before being adopted by his uncle Jake. With his help, Ben grew up to be an upstanding young man and eventually made it into college where he befriended Reed Richards, who confided in him that he hoped to build a starship one day to which Ben jokingly replied that he would pilot it for him. After graduating Ben became a successful US Airforce pilot and astronaut while Reed began to work on his starship project.

Once Ben left the airforce he was approached by Reed, who reminded him of his promise to pilot the starship. Though skeptical, Ben was eventually convinced to join Reed, his future wife Sue Storm and her younger brother Johnny to test the craft. When in space, however, the team was bombarded by cosmic radiation, altering their DNA and giving each member superhuman powers. When they landed back to earth, Ben found himself with superhuman strength and a thick orange rock-like skin. Though Ben initially hated his new body, after he and his companions under the leadership of Reed began to protect humanity as the Fantastic Four, he came to terms with it and became a beloved figure in the eyes of the public and the superhuman community.

Weapons, Powers, and Abilities

  • Superhuman Strength: Ben Grimm is really strong. His feats include successfully holding back a giant alien spacecraft from jettisoning from Earth, lifting an oil rig and stopping a multiple story building (weighing roughly 30,000 tons) from falling over and lifting it back into place. Other feats include holding bridge cables together for an extended period of time. He is strong enough to launch a T-rex, Luke Cage, and Savage Hulk, flying with his punches. Indeed, the Thing has consistently been portrayed as a rival to the Hulk, even though usually being less powerful. The Thing's advanced musculature produces considerably less fatigue toxins during physical activity than the musculature of a normal human, and his lungs are of greater volume and efficiency.
  • Superhuman Durability: The Thing's whole body, from his skin, skeletal system, organs and muscle tissues, are made up of smooth orange rock. His hide are impervious to most forms of damage, and the Thing has tanked bullets, punches from superhuman beings like the Champion, and once stopped and wrecked a hydraulic press powerful enough to bury through Earth. Not even the Wrecker, a guy with Asgardian power who once took on the Avengers single-handedly, could damage him. However, with enough force, one could chip away at his rock-like hide.
  • Expert Hand-to-Hand Combatant: Ever since he was young, Mr. Grimm has always been a fighter, starting out as a thug knowledgeable of street fighting. He would then learn more fighting styles, such as wrestling while in college and close-quarters combat from the Air Force. He would also learn jujitsu and even professional wrestling during his tenure in Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation. His most favored combat style, however, is boxing, which he extensively trained in as a superhero. He would go the distance in a galactic boxing match against the Champion.

Robotman

Give it straight to me, doc. Will I ever dance on broadway?

Robotman, born Cliff Steele, is a member of the Doom Patrol, a superhero team focused on studying the weird and the macabre in the DC Universe. He was a former race car driver who almost died in a car accident in Speedway City. His human body was destroyed in the crash, leaving only his brain salvageable. A brilliant surgeon by the name of Doctor Niles Caulder volunteered to lend his assistance in the hopes of saving Cliff's life. Although his body was destroyed, Caulder managed to save Cliff's brain. He transferred the brain into a cybernetic body, and Cliff became known as Robotman. Caulder made arrangements so that his participation in the surgery remained completely anonymous.

Although this has made him largely an outcast from society, and unable to truly live a normal life, he uses the incredible abilities of his new body to fight for good against the forces of evil. During one mission, he, alongside members of the Doom Patrol, decided to sacrifice themselves when trapped by the villain Captain Zahl. Rather than risk the deaths of the people of Codsville, they allowed Captain Zahl to push the plunger. The island where Codsville was exploded, killing most of the team. It was later revealed that Steele had survived the blast but barely. Doc Magnus of the Metal Men outfitted him with a new robotic body to replace his old one and eventually returned to a body identical to his original Robotman form. Steele would undergo more transformation after his human brain was seemingly destroyed and his mind preserved in an electronic form, leading him to question whether he was still the real Cliff Steele or simply a copy.

Weapons, Powers, and Abilities

  • Superhuman Strength: Clifford Steele's cybernetic body allows him to exert more power than a normal human. He is capable of lifting heavy objects, throw a manhole like a frisbee with deadly accuracy, and send enemies like a member from the Men from N.O.W.H.E.R.E flying. He is strong enough to go toe-to-toe with Equus, a mammoth-like supervillain who is strong enough to go against Supergirl.
  • Superhuman Durability: Robotman's body can take on large amounts of damage. He is impervious to bullets and even energy weapons from the Men from N.O.W.H.E.R.E. (which can kill a person with one shot). He was strong enough to survive an island-sized explosion created by Captain Zahl. Most impressive was the time he tanked a glass swarm (a gust of flying shards) and the time he survived the extremely large Judge Rock (a celestial body made up of rocks with a city on top) being dropped on him. That being said, he is not invincible, as his body could only take so much damage. A cosmic alien being called a smoke dog once ripped him apart.
  • Cybernetic Enhancements: As a cyborg, Robotman is equipped with many equipment. Magnetic plates allowing him the ability to scale metallic surfaces with relative ease. Emergency oxygen supply and mercury power batteries give him superhuman stamina. Heat coils on his palm plating allowing him the ability melt dense material with a touch of his hands. His arms can also be detached and used as boomerangs. He can also communicate to others through a mobile video transceiver. During his time in space, the alien species Orthodoxy of the Insect Mesh, once upgraded his body with spiderlegs equipped with energy-based firearms.

X-Factors

Experience

The Thing has fought against anyone and mostly came out on top. He's gone toe-to-toe against the Champion, Hulk, and Green Scar. He's fought against Marvel's most powerful villains like Doctor Doom and Wrecker. He would survive events like Beyonder's Battleworld, being trapped inside the Negative Zone, and assisted in combatting Galactus, devourer of worlds. From small leve thugs to cosmic gods, Ben Grimm has faced them all. Cliff Steele, however, has fought lesser known enemies who were also deadly, such as Madame Rouge, Capt. Zahl, and Equus. He's fought against some of the weirdest enemies in the DC/Vertigo Universe like the the Men from N.O.W.H.E.R.E. (an organization hellbent on erasing anything peculiar), the Brotherhood of Dada (supervillains that personified aburdist, abstract art), and Mr. Nobody (a walking shadow who can drain sanity).

Intelligence

Ben Grimm is smart but he mostly allows Reed Richards and Sue Storm do the strategies and tactics. While he can lead and think on the fly, his most favored tactic is always brash brute strength. Clifford Steele has shown himself to be more cautious. He's not one to charge straight to his enemies, preferring instead to study his enemies first and think of ways to dispose them with less damage to him and his comrades. He can be a bit brash, but became more careful (at least, compared to his comrades like Crazy Jane) during Grant Morrison's run. Although this does not make him in any way a tactical genius or a super smart leader.

Notes

  • Battle takes place in an arena.
  • Voting ends 5 days later.
  • This will be Ben Grimm during World War Hulk and Clifford Steele during Down Paradise Way.
  • For more information of what they can do, check here (for Thing) and here (for Robotman).

Battle

Benjamin Grimm, known as the Thing, stayed alone in the Baxter Office, finishing off some tasks his friend, Reed Richards, asked him to do. It was midnight now, and the Thing could not believe he was staying up late to work. He should be enjoying his football replays, or maybe hitting the sack for a healthy slumber.

“I need your help, Ben, he said,” complained the Thing. “I can only trust you on this, and I’ll owe you one, he said.”

Yet, he will stay up all night. He would not let his friend down. That’s what friends are for according to this big orange brute.

Suddenly, a red portal appeared, surprising Ben Grimm. Out came an orange-colored robot, wearing denim jeans, pants and a black rock-and-roll t-shirt. His arrival did not go smoothly though, ending with him crashing on Reed’s computers.

“Dammit, professor!” the robot said, whose name was Cliff Steele. The Robotman got up and cursed, while looking at the place he arrived in. This place felt wrong and he knew this was a new dimension he accidentally ended up into.

The Thing approached the Robotman, his arms raised in a boxing stance. “Who the hell are you, tin man?!” He yelled.

“Question is, who are you?” The Robotman yelled. “You look like a superhero but not someone I know. Maybe you’re a bad guy!”

“Big talk coming from a guy who’s breaking and entering,” the Thing retorted. “If there’s a criminal here, that is you!”

“Yeah sure. Whatever you say, monster…”

“What the hell did you just said?!”

That insult was too much and the Thing charged Robotman. He punched Robotman in the cheek, making a dent on his orange face. The Robotman fell down, but quickly got back up and hooked the Thing in the jaw. The two then went back and forth.

The Thing’s strength too much. He was doing more damage to Robotman than the latter could dish out.

Cliff Steele tried to even the odds by wrapping his hands around The Thing. But Ben Grimm proved heavy and too strong; the rock man quickly getting out of his grip, leaving Cliff’s arms bent and broken. As Cliff screamed in frustration, the Thing grabbed his arm and shoulder-threw him away to a corner of the office.

“Damn you, you rock-face ugly!”

“You cause some, you get some!”

Knowing Cliff would lose if he kept on rushing B, he decided to unleash his guns instead. He fired several energy beams at the Thing, which caused great pain and suffering. Robotman did not let up; he kept on firing his guns. Several beams pushed through the Thing, chipping of some of his rocks, wounding him several times.

Ben’s enemy had the advantage of long range. And he’s not agile enough to dodge, or fast enough to get away. He had only one option - push forward with all his might.

The Thing then pressed his foot, followed by another step and another. Though Robotman’s guns were powerful, the Thing was making progress. He got closer and closer, just enough to get Robotman at arm’s reach. When he did got close, Robotman would then flip away, in retreat, trying his best to keep his distance. Suddenly, pain began to cripple the Thing as more of his rocks continued being chipped away. Ben tried his best to hold on and resist. But the firepower was too much.

Soon, the rock-covered hero flew into the air as Robotman continued to fire. The Thing fell down on the ground, exhausted and beyond his limitation to continue. Robotman then approached the Thing, his hands raised up as a sign of peace. "Okay, man. That's enough fighting. I don't want to kill anyone I've just met."

"Y-You... called me... a monster..." grumbled The Thing as he looked at Robotman's eyes.

"Yeah sorry about that. I got problems with my temper sometimes. But please, I don't want to fight and I don't want to live and die here. I want to go home. Can you help me?"

"Hmmm. I know someone who might be able to help."

Expert's Opinion

Robotman won because, while The Thing is a super strong fighter, the former proved to be faster and more durable. His long range attacks also provided damage at a distance, enough to keep The Thing at bay. The Thing's chances of winning is also diminished by the fact that he can still be hurt, something Robotman has no problem with.

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