Milo of Croton : The unbeatable Greek wrestler who can carry a bull over his shoulder!
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Mendoza the Jew: The quick moving British boxer who revolutionized boxing!
WHO IS DEADLIEST?
Milo of Croton[]
Milo of Croton was a 6th-century BC wrestler from the Magna Graecian city of Croton, who enjoyed a brilliant
wrestling career and won many victories in the most important athletic festivals of ancient Greece. Milo was a six-time Olympic victor. He won the boys' wrestling (probably in 540 BC), and thereafter five men's wrestling titles between 536 and 520 BCE. He also won seven crowns at the Pythian Games at Delphi (one as a boy), ten at the Isthmian Games, and nine at the Nemean Games. Milo was a five-time Periodonikēs, a "grand slam" sort of title bestowed on the winner of all four festivals in the same cycle. Milo's career at the highest level of competition must have spanned 24 years. Milo was defeated (or tied) in his attempt at a seventh Olympic title in 516 BCE by a young wrestler from Croton who practiced the technique of akrocheirismos—literally, 'highhandedness' or wrestling at arm's length—and by doing so, avoided Milo's crushing embrace. Simple fatigue took its toll on Milo.
To intimidate his opponents, Milo of Croton would consume raw bull's meat in front of his adversary and would drink raw bull's blood for energy and vitality. ilo was also said to have carried a bull on his shoulders, and to have burst a band about his brow by simply inflating the veins of his temples. In addition to his athletic victories, Milo is credited by the ancient commentator Diodorus Siculus with leading his fellow citizens to military triumph over neighboring Sybaris in 510 BC.
The date of Milo's death is unknown. According to legend he was attempting to tear a tree apart when his hands became trapped in a crevice in its trunk, and a pack of wolves (in later versions often changed to a lion) surprised and devoured him. This story has been depicted in works of art by Pierre Puget, Étienne-Maurice Falconet and others. Literary allusions to this story appear in works such as Rabelais's Gargantua and Pantagruel, Shakespeare's Troilus and Cressida, and Alexandre Dumas's The Man in the Iron Mask.
Weapons[]
- Short: Xiphos Sword - 20 inch forged steel blade weighs 2 pounds and is the greek's sidearm that can stab and slash enemies.
- Long: Composite Bow - A bow made up of yew and cedar that famous Greek archers like Cretans and Skiritai used. It can fire bows of up to 100-200 yards and can penetrate armor.
- Special: Spiked Club - Milo once paraded as Hercules during the battle against Sybaris. He carried a spiked war club that was 2 feet long and had nast iron spikes in the end.
- Martial Arts: Greek Folk Wrestling - The traditional Greek wrestling which is the ancestor of pankration and modern Greco-Roman wrestling. This type of martial arts have no striking (besides the use of sweeps), but has a complete set of grappling and clinching such as limb grabs, ground fighting, leg throws, suplexes, as well as submissions and chokes.
Daniel Mendoza[]
Daniel Mendoza (July 5, 1764 – September 3, 1836) also known as Dan Mendoza, "Mendoza the Jew" or "Mendoza
the Great", was an Jewish-English prizefighter who became the heavyweight champion of England from 1792–1795. He fought a total of 37 bouts and won 30 of them through knockouts. Considered to be the most influential boxer in history, Daniel Mendoza is credited with completely reinventing the sport of boxing by emphasizing on speed rather than power. He is known to be the creator of the "outboxer" style of boxing that many modern boxers still used today like Muhammad Ali and Floyd Mayweather Jr. He is known by many to be the "Father of Modern Boxing".
Mendoza started his career in pugilism at the young age of 16. He turned professional at the age of 18, and had an unbeatable 17 winning streak by 1783. He would later be embroiled in a heated rivalry with fellow boxer Richard Humphries, which resulted in the first "modern trash-talk" rivalry in sports history. It gained so much publicity that their bout was also the first where people paid to watch a sports game. At his prime he was capable of fighting three separate brawls in just one day, winning them all. He got involved in three fights whilst on his way to watch a boxing match. The reasons were: (a) someone's cart cut in; (b) he felt a shopkeeper was trying to cheat him; (c) he didn't like how a man was looking at him.
He was so good in fact, that he was one of the first athlete to actually meet the Prince of Wales who would become King George IV. Outside of boxing, Mendoza still continued living a fighting life. One time, his friend Thomas Fewtrell was attacked by a gang, and Mendoza had to fight them off with nothing more than a pistol and a mahogany table. He was also convicted of numerous crimes and was once hired as a thug to put down the ongoing Old Price Riots (which was one of the deadliest riots in London's history). His time as a boxer and other violent escapades solidified Mendoza as one of the toughest guys in his time. He is also considered a national hero in the Jewish community, because he elevated the status of Jews from a helpless minority to a physically strong people in a time where there was rampant antisemitism.
Weapons[]
- Short: Cudgel - A 2.5 feet long wooden stick that people back then (even boxers such as James Figg) used as self-defense weapons. Daniel Mendoza was said to have carried one during the Old Price Riots based on his print sketch.
- Long: Flintlock Pistol - .70 caliber muzzle-loading pistol that many Londoners back then kept as self-defense weapon. Mendoza once used a pistol to fight off a gang that was beating up his friend Thomas Fewtrell.
- Special: Improvised Weapons - Mendoza is talented in using everything as a weapon. Boxers back then used still-toed boots to kick opponent's shins, and Mendoza himself once used a mahogany table which he threw at a gang to scare them off.
- Martial Arts: Classical Pugilism - The predecessor to modern boxing, Classical Pugilism is filled with an assortment of punches, some limited kicking, and limited grappling in the form of hip throws, headlocks and chokes. Grabs below the waist though are not allowed, and there is no ground fighting.
X-Factors[]
- Training
- Milo: 75
- Mendoza: 60
Neither this men have professional training, although Milo of Croton gets a slight edge since he, like any other Greeks back then, probably received militia training. Mendoza was a trained boxer but he does not have any sort of military training.
- Experience
- Milo: 80
- Mendoza: 75
Milo of Croton fought in an actual war, specifically the Croton-Sybaris War of 510 BC, while Daniel Mendoza fought during the Old Price Riots of 1809. Milo takes a slight edge since the Croton-Sybaris War was a military expedition compared to the Old Price Riots which was a small urban civilian conflict.
- Physicality
- Milo: 75
- Mendoza: 75
Milo of Croton is known more for his strength than intellect, while Mendoza used both strength, speed and most importantly, intelligence. Although Milo is stronger and tougher, Mendoza proved to be faster and quicker. Milo also had a problem when it comes to stamina since a wrestler actually defeated him by tiring him out. It's kind of hard to decide which you think is better: brute strength and durability or speed and stamina.
- Intelligence
- Milo: 70
- Mendoza: 95
Mendoxa takes this because of both cunning and tactics. Based on records Milo mostly used his braws more than his brains, and even during the Croton-Sybaris War he gathered his men on an audacious attack (Joan of Arc-style) and charged right into battle without much thinking. Mendoza is at least a bit smarter than this. He had to literally strategize and use tactics to beat opponents who were bigger than him (boxing back then did not have any weight divisions, so Mendoza, who was a middleweight, was forced to fight other heavyweight boxers). During the Old Price Riots, he had the control to lead other thugs and runners and make sure to fight off the rioteers without causing much damage to the theatre.
Notes[]
- Battle will be 5 vs 5 in a small plaza.
Battle[]
None
Expert's Opinion[]
Daniel Mendoza won because he has the best weapons and martial arts. Milo is simply outclassed and obsolete.