User blog comment:SPARTAN 119/The Gunners (Fallout 4) vs First Division (Coppelion)/@comment-17814994-20161024051549

Elgb's "Apocalyptic Warriors" EDGES!!!

Handgun: This is a tricky one. While the Sig does have the larger magaazine, they only have a 3-round difference from the N99 Pistol. The N99 on the other hand fires the larger 10mm round, that is equivalent to or even exceeds the power of an average .45 ACP load. To be honest, I'm gonan give the egde to the N99. The Sig only has a 3-round plus advantage so it's not really going to make any difference. However, the thing about the 9mm is that it lacks pwoer. You'll waste a lot of those 3-round advantage to stop a guy in his tracks. But the 10mm doesn't have the same problems and it can kill more efficently without any bullets wasted than the 9mm. EDGE: Gunners

Rifle: Again Spartan, this is a tough one. The M4 has the obvious adavtange of being a rapid-firing carbine that will pindown and make mincemeat out of the unarmored Gunners. However, the laser does have more power and accuracy to blast away at the 1st Division even as they hide from cover. Still, since these two warriors aren't really wearing that much armored like Iron Man, I'm pretty sure the guy who can chuck the most bullets at the enemy first would win. And this is why I give the edge to the M4 Carbine. EDGE: 1st Division

Rifles 2: I'm giving the edge straight to the Howa. The Gunner rifle does have more bullets in its mag but it's very heavy and cumbersome to wield in battle. Aiming it will be difficult and I see many Gunners ending up firing that thing from the hip and wasting alot of ammo, completely nullifying its advantage in magazine. The Howa is simple, slick and can be aimed and fired without any difficult. EDGE: 1st Division

Launcher: Easy edge to the rocket launcher. A recoilless rifle is just a small piece of artillery that fires shells while the rocket launcher can fire self-propelled missiles that can go farther and hit harder. Also, the Carl Gustav needs two men to operate while the rocket launcher only needs one. EDGE: Gunner

Heavy Armor: This may sound crazy but I'm actually giving the edge to the Armor and the Fat Man launcher. Some people may disagree with me on this, and we all have our own view upon the Infantry vs Tank subject. But the thing is and always will be, is that you don't send tanks to a non-tank battle with little to no ground support. It's been like that since the age of chariots and war elephant and it hasn't yer changed ever since. If your gonna take a look at it, a tank looks like one big target in a battlefield. A tank, no matter how large its gun is, will have diffiuclty trying to hit smaller targets, especially if that target is hding around buildings and debris. The tank's machien gun will have difficuty trying to penetrate the Gunners armor, just long enough for the gunner to hit him with that mini nuke. THe only way for the tank to comabt this is taht if its got support from other soldiers on the ground to personally deal with them, but they'll probably be busy fighting against other infantry, and will do jack shit against an armored Gunner. I see this category ending up like what happened to Ernest Smith or Robert Cain. If the Gunners can gang up on the tank with those fat men then the tank is toast. EDGE: Gunner

Deadliest Warrior?

Even though the First Division are carrying the better rifles, I still have to give this one to the Gunners. It's simple logic that a platoon of trained soldiers will be able to beat a group of untrained mercenaries. However, in terms of experience and feats the Gunenrs simply has the 1st Division severely beat. They have fought in more battles and up against better equipped enemies, while the 1st Division was stuck in haitus in irradiated Tokyo. We don't really know if the 1st Division actually fought before the nuclear disaster, and so far since the last 20 years all that they've been doing were stealing food and being complete jerks to other survivors. They're first true call to arms was against a small group of teenagers and they still got beat. And I see them blundering their way in this battle as well. The Gunners are more brutal, they're more tactically minded and even though they're up against a tank and a couple of automatic weapons, they'll be able to tear down the 1st Division in the end the same way every other group in the Fallout Universe did.