User blog comment:Kazanshin/Barbarians made Kings: Aterui vs Fritigern/@comment-17814994-20190701114817/@comment-35680048-20190703021129

I have no problem with you having an opinion, it just needs to be logical, and your counterargument doesn't help you. (Im going paragraph by paragraph)

1. My point on the "decimation" with the angon and francisca stands, even in the initial parts of the battle, as sure they can do stuff to shields but they still have to get through armor well enough to do significant damage before the regular melee battle starts, while the Emishi have their own spears. I won't argue the greater effect of straight blades against armor, but this doesn't win the fight for them.

2 The Emishi  horse archers have other weapons besides their bows, allowing them their own versatility along with their better armor. You also need to prove that the Goth composite bow is significantly more powerful than the Ebisu Yumi composite bow. That's still saying it's underpowered.

3. "Also, in terms of tactics and overall decision. I gave Fritigern the edge since I doubt hell be running into ambushed by the Emishi. The Goths at that time are refugees; they have been always on the run by the time of Fritigern. They know well not to tango with mobile opponents in a disadvataged position. Yeah you have your own opinion on it, its just my opinion why Fritigern wins for me"

All of this is very wrong. The Goths aren't going to know of Aterui. They have no advanced knowledge of him or his strategy. So how could Fritigern completely avoid Aterui ambushing bim? Its not like the conditions of this battle make it so he can't.

"The battle takes place in a forest area in the Tibetan plateau with neither having prior knowledge of the other or great knowledge of the terrain. " This is in the description of the battle. Being "refugees" doesn't exclude one from being ambushed. It's an organized army of 10,000 men, you think Aterui can't find it and ambush it? And yes I have my own opinion on it and you can have yours, but your opinion on who wins needs to be supported logically, and yours simply isn't.