User blog:WraithOfWaffle/Battle Thirteen: Chamberlain Gangster Families (Grand Theft Auto V) vs. Water Street Gang (Sleeping Dogs)

Intro
Hello I'm TheWetWaffle and welcome to my thirteenth blog. As we celebrate my return to making battles I bring a clash between two brutal street gangs from opposite ends of the world. The Chamberlain Gangster Families, the Los Santos street gang who use urban combat and their ruthless nature in their gang war against the Ballas! But they'll find their toughest foe is in their eastern counterparts, the Water Street Gang, the ruthless Triad gang in the midst of a civil war with rival Triad gangs all for the control of the Sun On Yee! Bullets and fists will fly in this war for turf but in the end the winner will be crowned, THE DEADLIEST WARRIOR!

The Warriors
===Chamberlain Gangster Families ===

In the events of Grand Theft Auto V, the San Andreas area is the warzone in a gang war between various street gangs including the Vagos, Ballas, and Families, which include the Carson Avenue Families, Forum Drive Families, and, Grove Street Families, and Chamberlain Gangster Families. One member of the Families, Franklin Clinton decides to leave the gang to become a bigger criminal but stills assists certain members from time to time. But their war with the Ballas and others still continues for control for various territories including Chamberlain Hills, their main area of control. They typically stay in groups between three and five and will even help the player fight off police if their wanted level is two stars or lower. They also appear in Grand Theft Auto Online as NPCs where you can fight them in gang attacks or assist Gerald, a member who needs the players help to steal drugs from rival gangs.

===Water Street Gang ===

In Dogeyes Lin's attempt to take over Winston Chu's territory, a war between Lin's Jade Gang and Chu's Water Street Gang erupt into a much larger civil war with the entire Sun On Yee getting involved. The group is a somewhat low level street gang who need to rely on their fists and melee weapons due to certain laws restricting firearms in Hong Kong. But in major fights they will use firearms in cases where they are required. After the murder of Winston Chu by Big Smile Lee, Wei Shen, a relatively new member becomes the Red Pole of the gang when really Shen's an undercover cop. During Shen's time as boss, the gang engage in fights between them, the 18k Triad, and Lee's own Triad gang. Even during Chu's funeral they engage in a massive firefight with the 18k Triad, who were lead there by super-indent Thomas Pendrew. In the end of the game, Shen kills Lee by throwing him into an ice chipper in a rather brutal fashion, ending the Triad civil war.

Chamberlain Gangster Families
Bladed Melee=


 * Combat Knife

9 Inch Blade

Single Edged with Serrated Blade

Made for Combat



Blunt Melee=


 * Baseball Bat

Metal

42 Inches

33 Ounces

Blunt Trauma



Pistol=


 * Taurus PT-92AF

12 Round Box Magazine

Fires 9x19 Parabellum

Weighs 34 oz

50m of Range

Clone of the Beretta 92 series

Shotgun=


 * Mossberg 590 Cruiser

Fires 12 Gauge Shells

8 Round Tube

40m of Range

Weighs 5.5 Pounds



SMG=


 * Mini Uzi

32 Round Box Magazine

Fires 9x19 Parabellum

950 RPM

Weighs about 7.75 Pounds

100m of Range

Assault Rifle=


 * Norinco Type 56-2

30 Round Box Magazine

Fires 7.62x39 M43/M67

650 RPM

Weighs 8.6 Pounds

100m-800m of Range (sight adjustments), 300m-400m of Range (Effective)

Muzzle Velocity of 715 M/S

Folding Stock



Explosive=


 * RPG-7

Fires 85mm Warhead and 40mm Launcher

Weighs 15 Pounds

Ziplines from Point A to Point B

Fires 200m (Effective Range), 920m (Total)



Gallery=



103px-Knife - GTAIV.png|Combat Knife

BaseballBat-GTA4.png|Baseball Bat

Taurus PT-92.jpg|Taurus PT-92AF

Mossberg 500 cruiser.jpg|Mossberg 590 Cruiser

Mini Uzi.jpg|Mini Uzi

Type56-2.jpg|Norinco Type 56-2

Rpg-7.jpg|RPG-7

Water Street Gang
Bladed Melee=


 * Kitchen Knife

6-8 Inch Blade

10-12 Inches in Total

Improvised

Single Edged



Blunt Melee=


 * Crowbar

18 Inches

Hook on one end, prying edge on the other

Metal

Improvised



Pistol=


 * HK USP

1.47 Pounds

.45 ACP

12 Round Magazine

30m of Range



Shotgun=


 * Hawk Semi-Auto

12 Gauge

8 Round Box Magazine

Semi Automatic

40m of Range



SMG=


 * HK UMP

.45 ACP

600 RPM

70m of Range

25 Round Magazine

5.8 Pounds

Assault Rifle=


 * Bullpup G36E

30 Round Magazine

8 Pounds

5.56x45mm NATO

750 RPM

800m of Range



Explosive=


 * Grenade Launcher

Fires 40mm Grenades

Attached to the Bullpup G36E

Fires at an Arch

200m-400m of range (based on the AG36)



Gallery=



Kitchen Knife.jpg|Kitchen Knife

Crowbar 1.jpg|Crowbar

400px-HK-USP.jpg|HK USP

Hawk semi std.jpg|Hawk Semi-Auto

UMP 45.jpg|HK UMP

738px-Wei's Gun.jpg|Bullpup Heckler & Koch G36E and Grenade Launcher|Bullpup G36 and Grenade Launcher

==X Factors ==

Explanations

 * They seem even in experience, as they're rather low level street gangs with low trained members and are in the midst of wars with rival gangs.


 * The Water Street Gang mainly use improvised weapons and have a tougher time getting access to firearms due to them being uncommon in their area. The Families have a lot more access to firearms with AmmuNations and such around Los Santos.


 * The Chamberlain Families typically don't engage in much combat but when they do they use firearms and break for cover. The Water Street Gang rely on knives, blunt weaponry, and their fists so they've honed their skills. Plus some of them may have skills in martial arts but this may vary from fighter to fighter.


 * Again, the Water Street Gang aren't exactly the most firearm savvy gang, but have access to them in limited quantities. The Chamberlain Gangsters can use firearms but with rather poor marksmanship but at least use guns on a larger basis than their opponents.


 * Neither gangs are exactly scholars but the Families tend to use brute strength and numbers to fight. The Water Street Gang are a bit smarter with their tactics and tend to cooperate a bit better.


 * These guys aren't top tier crime syndicates but the Water Street Gang is a part of a larger syndicate and have connections to larger sources.


 * Now these gangs aren't exactly mass murdering maniacs so they aren't to brutal. But they'll kill any threats opposing their gangs and aren't hesitant to do so.


 * Both of these groups prefer to stay in larger numbers so they'll need to cooperate to some extent. But the Water Street Gang tend to fight a bit more productively compared to the Chamberlain Gangsters who just duck for cover and fire.

Weapons Edges
Bladed Melee=

The Kitchen Knife may be effective against other improvised weapons like a scalpel or something but it lacks the versatility and effectiveness of the Combat Knife. The serrated edge will make wounds a lot more painful and cause bleeding to be a lot more hard to cover. To top that, the Kitchen Knife is for a chef, not a thug looking for a cheap weapon.

Edge: Chamberlain Gangster Families



Blunt Melee=

I'll have to call this even, as both of these weapons bring their benefits to the battlefield. The Crowbar is lighter so swings can be a lot faster, has a prying edge that allows the user to cave someone's head in faster, and is shorter, making it concealable. The Bat is longer and has a heavier edge, making it deadlier each swing.

Edge: Even



Pistol=

This is an easy edge for the USP. The PT-92 is a decent pistol but the bean sized 9mm is gonna leave smaller wounds compared to the .45 ACP rounds of the USP. The USP has less range but that shouldn't matter since pistols are close range weapons, not snipers.

Edge: Water Street Gang



Shotgun=

The Mossberg is a great compact shotgun with decent stats but is outclassed compared to the semi automatic, box loaded Hawk shotgun. It doesn't need to be pumped, it has a faster reload, packs the 12 gauge power as the Mossberg, and packs the same range as the previously mentioned gun.

Edge: Water Street Gang

SMG=

I'll have to call this even, since it's essentially rate of fire and compactness vs. power and accuracy. The Mini Uzi lacks a stock and hipfire accuracy isn't too great but it has a large rate of fire, is concealable, and more ammo. The UMP has a slow rate of fire but has a stock, fire a stronger round, and is lighter. Both have their pros and cons so it's even to me.

Edge: Even



Assault Rifle=

The Type 56-2 is a decent AKM clone with a folding stock but compared to a more sophisticated weapon like the G36 it looks primitive. The G36 has better accuracy, more range, a faster rate of fire, a grenade launcher, and less recoil than the Type 56-2. The Type 56-2 has a stronger round but that's really it.

Edge: Water Street Gang



Explosive=

The 40mm Grenade Launcher is easier to access in the middle of combat but lacks the range or power of the RPG-7. The RPG is a lot more heavy but brings a bigger payload thanks to it's rocket ziplining from point A to point B.

Edge: Chamberlain Gangster Families

Setting
Where shall this battle be taken place? The Golden Koi (Winston Chu's restaurant) The Paleto Forest Sawmill and Paleto Bay (The Location of the Grand Theft Auto V mission "Lamar Down" and location for the Paleto Score)


 * Cars will be available for both locations.

Scenerios

 * If the Golden Koi is chosen as the location of the fight, the scenerio will be that a certain person has placed a bounty on Winston Chu's head for one million US dollars and the Chamberlain Gangster Families want to cash in the bounty. Chu isn't their but the Water Street Gang are ready to fight.
 * If Paleto is chosen as the location, the scenerio is that the Water Street Gang have expanded their operations and are extorting from local businesses. The Families have had their eyes on this territory for a while but the Water Street Gang isn't willing to give up.

Battle
Chamberlain Gangster Families:

Water Street Gang:

TBW.

Expert's Opinion
TBD.