User blog:Manofgod/Bernard Montgomery vs Douglas McArthur

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Bernard Montgomery - The gentleman general who outwitted the Desert Fox!

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Douglass MacArthur - The American hero who pushed back the Empire of Japan!

Who.... is.... DEADLIEST?!

Bernard Montgomery
Bernard Law Montgomery was an officer in the British Army. He was second lieutenant during the First World War and the commander of the British 8th Army during the Second World War. His most famous victory, at the battle of El Alamein (from which a certain resident user found inspiration in the creation of his username), turned the tide of the Second World War in favor of the Allied forces - the Allies had won no major victory previous to El Alamein and suffered no major defeat following El Alamein. Montgomery was a master of desert warfare and a strategic genius, employing an impressive defense against Erwin Rommel's Afrika Korps before launching a massive counterattack that removed Axis presence from North Africa and allowed the Allied invasion of Italy. After the war, Montgomery enjoyed the title 1st Viscount Montgomery of Alamein, and later died in 1976.

Sidearm: Webley revolver
 * 455 Webley Mk II
 * 6-round cylinder double action revolver

Rifle: Short Magazine Lee Enfield
 * .303 Mk VII SAA Ball
 * 10-round magazine, loaded with 5-round charger clips
 * 20–30 aimed shots per minute
 * 550 yd effective range, 3,000 yd maximum firing range

SMG: Sten gun
 * 9mm Luger
 * 32-round detachable box magazine
 * 500–600 round/min

Machine Gun: Bren machine gun
 * .303 British
 * 30-round detachable box magazine
 * 500–520 rounds/min
 * 600 yd effective range, 1,850 yd maximum firing range

Explosives: PIAT
 * spring-launched anti tank weapon

Douglass MacArthur
Douglas MacArthur (26 January 1880 – 5 April 1964) was an American five-star general and Field Marshal of the Philippine Army. He was Chief of Staff of the United States Army during the 1930s and played a prominent role in the Pacific theater during World War II. He received the Medal of Honor for his service in the Philippines Campaign, which made him and his father Arthur MacArthur Jr. the first father and son to be awarded the medal. He was one of only five to rise to the rank of General of the Army in the US Army, and the only one conferred the rank of field marshal in the Philippine Army.

Sidearm: Colt M1911
 * .45 ACP
 * 7+1 round box magazine

Rifle: M1 Garand
 * .30-06 Springfield
 * 8-round en bloc magazine
 * 40–50 aimed shots per minute
 * 500 yd effective range, unknown maximum firing range

SMG: M1A1 Thompson SMG
 * .45 ACP
 * 30-round detachable box magazine
 * 600-700 round/min

Machine Gun: Browning Automatic Rifle
 * .30-06 Springfield
 * 20-round detachable box magazine
 * 500–650 rounds/min
 * 100–1,500 yd effective range, 4,500–5,000 yd maximum firing range

Explosives: M1A1 Bazooka
 * Man-portable recoilless anti-tank rocket launcher weapon

X-Factors
Monty vs MacArthy  Tactics and Strategy  85-85  An interesting note about these two warrior's history in leading men is that they are opposites when it comes to success. Ol' Berny was a terrific strategist in his initial debut in the War (El Alamein Campaign) before not doing so well after (Market Garden). Mac on the other hand was a so-and-so average strategist during the the first year of the Pacific War (Japanese Invasion of the Philippines) before becoming one of the greatest later (Retaking of the Philippines).

Experience

 80-88

 Ol' Berny had a colorful military career from the First World War, Irish Independence War to WW2 and to a little extent, the Palestinian Emergency. Mac fought first in the Mexican Revolution, the First World War, to his ascension to legend during the Pacific War and the Korean War. Montgomery obviously participated in more WW2 battles but Mac Arthur fought in more wars and longer too.

Resources

 70-90

 Britain wasn't really doing well during the initial part of the War due to a combination of stubborness, obsoleteness and unpreparedness. During Dunkirk, Britain and its allies where fighting a war similar to what they did in WWI and failed epically. There were also problems in weapons: for one they didn't make semi-automatics standard issue (they believe the revolver to be a gentleman's weapon), didn't develop machine guns until later of the war because they believe them to be gangster weapons, and their anti-tank weapons like the sticky bomb, PIAT and Boys rifle all... sucked. It wasn't until the Battle of Britain where the UK finally got its shit together and started its arms race (have to admit, their invention of the radar was crucial).

The Americans on the other hand had no problems developing the best guns and vehicles around. They were using semi-automatic rifles while the rest where still using bolt-actions. They had some of the sturdiest tanks and warships around. They manufactured more machine guns in a month than Britain or Japan did in a year. Unlike Britain who had to use scraps for their weapons (like the Sten), America had no problems in quality of weapons. So there's no doubt that in this battle, MacArthur would be the better armed and better resourced warrior here.

Note

 * The battlefield will be a neutral small village. Battle will be 5 vs 5.
 * No personal biases plz.