User blog:Elgb333/The Untouchables vs The Unknowns

Organized crime run rampart in our popular imagination. They're the type of criminals that you both admire and repulse. Unlike the petty criminals we see and hate everyday, these bad guys are not only breaking the law, but they also bend it and get richer in the process. And what kind of justice do we have in this world? Ff these type of criminals do bad things and yet not get punished by it?

Well enter the crimefighters. The guys who risked their lives, don't give a fuck about the system, in order to give justice to these nasties. And there's no crimefighter in the prohibition era better known than Eliot Ness himself. Ness has been a legend, a figure shroud in mystery and exaggeration, but the men he fought with remember who he was. A true marvel of a man with honor. But today, his men are going to duke it out to see whose the better uncorruptable crime fighting unit:

The Untouchables: Chicago's band of raiders who took down the influence and villainy of Al Capone!

vs

The Unknowns: Cleveland's very own lawmen who took out gangsters as well as one of the most elusive serial killers in history!

Who is Deadliest?!

The Untouchables
The Untouchables was a group of 11 U.S. federal law-enforcement agents, led by Eliot Ness, who, from 1929 to 1931, worked to end Al Capone's illegal activities by aggressively enforcing Prohibition and tax laws against Capone and his organization. In their conduct, they became legendary for being fearless and incorruptible, earning the nickname "Untouchables." The mission of the group was to attack Capone's beer and liquor empire by raiding speakeasies, stills, and, particularly, breweries. Upon taking office in 1929, the 31st President of the United States, Herbert Hoover, charged his Secretary of the Treasury, Andrew Mellon, with bringing down Al Capone. The federal government approached the problem by attacking Capone's organization on two fronts. The first front was mounted by criminal investigators of the Treasury's Bureau of Internal Revenue, who would examine the financial records of Capone and his subordinates to see if they could be prosecuted for tax evasion. This unit of IRS agents was headed by Frank J. Wilson under the close supervision of Elmer Irey.

The unit's main purpose was twofold: to make it apparent that law enforcement was indeed still active against Capone, whose opulent lifestyle was turning many people against him as the Great Depression progressed, and to deprive Capone of his sources of the income he needed to pay the corrupting graft that was his greatest protection against prosecution. Ness was chosen to head this elite squad. Raids against stills and breweries began immediately, and within six months, Ness claimed to have seized breweries worth over one million dollars. An extensive wire-tapping operation was the main source of information for the raids. Although Capone was instead charged with tax evasion than be convicted of the real crimes he did, Ness nonetheless was successful in putting an end to Capone's operation and that of the Chicago Outfit. With the Untouchables, America learned that one of the most popular gangsters, were not only rich, but didn't even give a damn to pay taxes like they do. This practically destroyed Capone's once golden celebrity status to the masses.

The primary members, which consists of 11 men,  Bill Gardner: Native American member of the squad and former soldier,  Lyle Chapman: a former Colgate University football player, tactician, and investigator and  Barney Cloonan: a muscular Irish agent known for his strength. A nd there were also other members that consisted of former criminals and private investigators.

Weapons
Melee=Knuckle Duster Knuckle knives for sale, knuckle knife with a "D" shaped metal guard that protects the knuckles, used in trench warfare in which the opposing sides attack, counterattack, and defend from sets of trenches dug into the ground.
 * 13.5 inches
 * Single-edge blade
 * Brass knuckle handguard

The M1911 is a semi-automatic pistol that fires the .45 ACP. The weapon is single-action and is recoil-operated. The famous firearms designer produced the pistol to be used as the standard sidearm for the United States military. The weapon was used through countless conflicts like World War II and the Vietnam War.
 * -|Pistol=M1911
 * Semi-Automatic
 * 7.45 ACP
 * 7-round magazine

The Winchester Model 1897, also known as the Model 97, M97, or Trench Gun, was a pump-action shotgun with an external hammer and tube magazine manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company.
 * -|Shotgun=Winchester Model 1897
 * 5-round tubular magazine
 * 20 meters

The Thompson is an American submachine gun, invented by John T. Thompson in 1919, too later for service in World War I as it was originally intended. As there were no restrictions on sale of automatic weapons at the time, Thompson put the weapon on the civilian market, where became infamous during the Prohibition era. It was a common sight in the media of the time, being used by both law enforcement officers and criminals. Indeed, the widespread use of the Thompson in crimes was one of the reasons for the first firearms laws, the National Firearms Act.
 * -|SMG=Thompson M1928
 * .45 ACP
 * 50-round drum magazine

The M1903 Springfield, formally the United States Rifle, Caliber .30-06, Model 1903, is an American clip-loaded, 5-shot, bolt-action service rifle used primarily during the first half of the 20th century.
 * -|Rifle=M1903 Springfield
 * Bolt-action
 * .30-03 Springfield (7.62x65mm)
 * 5-round stripper clip
 * 853 m/s muzzle velocity
 * 600 meter range

The Unknowns
After Eliot Ness' success in Chicago, he later took a job as Safety Director of Cleveland, Ohio. Although most of his job was all about keeping the citizens safe by installing new securities as well as utilities such as traffic lights and such, Ness still wanted to fight crime like he used to. After word came out to him that the Cleveland Police Department was corrupt, he immediately jumped into action and created a new task force to combat this threat. Unlike the Untouchables, the group consisted more of legitimate police officers who had more liberty and control over the cases that their counterpart. Their primary goal was to put a stop to Moe Dalitz's operation in the area. They raided facilities and gangster headquarters throughout and cleaned up the corruption in the city. He also installed another wire-tapping operation that he did back in Chicago.

However, their greatest call to arms came when a series of several grisly murders that occurred in the Cleveland area from 1935 to 1938. The serial killer was dubbed the "Torso Killer " or the "Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run." Although Ness had little knowledge about serial killers, he was nonetheless, forced to put a stop to him. He later took control the CPD's homicide division which he merged with his task force. In the graphic novel Torso, the crime author wrote that Ness personally nicknamed them "The Unknowns" as a confidential and off-publicity group. There has been no documents that suggested that the group was named as such, but the name has been irresistible for historians and pop culturists to differentiate them from the Untouchables.

The initial homicide division was originally led by Detective Peter Myrlo, Sam Simon, coroner Samuel Gerber, and numerous other policemen. Their job was to lead in the investigation to find the killer while also keeping Cleveland free of organized crime. They conducted undercover work in the slums and run in order to get information or maybe capture the killer in the act. Ness even ordered them to burn down the Kingsbury Run, the place where the killer takes his victims, but it's destruction was met with negative feedback from the citizens. In the end however, they failed to capture the Torso Killer, but they nonetheless successfully put a stop to the killings after the destruction of the Kingsbury Run, as well as putting a stop to the corruption in Celeveland.

Weapons
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 * 24 inches
 * Hardwood

The Colt Official Police is a medium frame, six-shot, double-action revolver with a six round cylinder, primarily chambered for the .38 Special cartridge, and manufactured by the Colt's Manufacturing Company. The intended specific target market for the Official Police was mainly law enforcement agencies and it became one of the best selling police firearms of all time, eventually in the 1950s coming to exemplify typical peace officer weaponry.
 * -|Pistol=Colt Official Police
 * .38 special
 * 6-round cylinder

The Winchester Model 1912 (also commonly known as the Model 12, or M12) is an internal-hammer pump-action, shotgun with an external tube magazine. Popularly-named the Perfect Repeater at its introduction, it largely set the standard for pump action shotguns over its 51 year high-rate production life. It's lack of hammer gives it a faster rate of fire and reliability from other previous hammered shotgun of its time.
 * -|Shotgun=Winchester Model 1912
 * Pump-action
 * 6-round tubular magazine

The Thompson is an American submachine gun, invented by John T. Thompson in 1919, too later for service in World War I as it was originally intended. As there were no restrictions on sale of automatic weapons at the time, Thompson put the weapon on the civilian market, where became infamous during the Prohibition era. It was a common sight in the media of the time, being used by both law enforcement officers and criminals. Indeed, the widespread use of the Thompson in crimes was one of the reasons for the first firearms laws, the National Firearms Act.
 * -|SMG=Thompson M1928
 * .45 ACP
 * 50-round drum magazine

The M1 Garand was the standard issue servie rifle of the United States Armed Forces from 1936 until 1957. It is an air-cooled, gas-powered semi-automatic rifle, the first of its kind. Thousands of M1 Garands were issued to American Allied forces around the globe. It has since then been decommissioned in most areas, but continues to be a popular weapon for hunting. It was a significant combat innovation because of its ability to rapidly fire powerful cartridges.
 * -|Rifle=M1 Garand
 * Semi-auto
 * .30-06 Springfield (7.62x63mm)
 * 8-round stripper clip
 * 853 m/s muzzle velocity
 * 402 meter range
 * 50 rpm

X-Factors

 * In training, I had to give a big edge to the Unknowns. While I respect that the Untouchables were knowledgeable in combat (one of them was even a soldier once), most of them were convicts, private investigators and thugs who had no prior professional training. The Unknowns on the other hand, were all consisted of well-trained and well-disciplined policemen.


 * In logistics, well I have to give another huge edge to the Unknowns. Unlike the Untouchables who operated independently in most of their operations, the Unknowns were already a part of the Cleveland Police Department. This gives them the liberty and the resources to fight crime the Untouchables can't.


 * In combat success, the Untouchables definately takes the cake. While they couldn't actually convict Al Capone of a more serious crime, they nonentheless put a stop to all of his operations. They've even fought and survived numerous assassination attempts on their lives, and proven that they were uncorruptable. The Unknowns were also successful in their fight against organized crime, but failed to accomplish their primary objective which was to capture the Torso killer.