User blog comment:SPARTAN 119/Boxer rebel VS Black Eagle Rebel/@comment-35680048-20190818155740

Tybaltcapulet's "This isn't what I meant by seize the means" Edges: 

Short Range: This is an easy edge for the Butterfly Swords. They have longer and larger blades, can be used to stab and slash which the hatchet can't, and the swords are actually designed for combat. They also have an actual handguard to make sure it's more sturdy.Edge: Boxer Rebels

Spears: I have to give this to the Qiang. This again comes from the design of these two weapons. The pitchfork may look more dangerous with multuple prongs on it, but the thickness and almost bluntness of the blades make the pitchfork less effective in general. The Qiang on the other hand even with its size is a quick, lightweight spear, whose blade is unimpeded by other prongs or by relative bluntness Edge:Boxer Rebels

Pistols: The M1879 was a fine pistol for its time, but the Nagant is basically a direct upgrade of it. More capacity, power, muzzle velocity, a better and faster double-action system, need I go on? The Nagant is better in literally every stat worth mentioning.Edge:Black Eagle Rebels

Rifles: I'm actually not too concerned with the Hanyang and its reliability issue. It doesn't seem to affect the fact that it served the Chinese more than 20 years after the Boxer Rebels in various conflicts including WW2. The cartridges to me aren't all that much different and should function quite similarly. Range is also dead even, the only thing the Mosin-Nagant really has is muzzle velocity. And I honestly think it's too minor to really matter Edge:Even

Special: Let me tell you, I really hate the Obrez with a passion. It's such a last ditch weapon that it's not even funny. The range is absolutely pathetic, it's small size makes makes the user have to constantly readjust their sight picture, it's recoil is quite intense, and last time I checked, a plume of flame bursting out of your non-flamethrower weapon isn't a good thing, and potentially dangerous. The repeating crossbow on the other hand is a much more reliable and accurate weapon, so it can be used as more than a last ditch weapon. It has 3 times the range of the Obrez, and they even have poison bolts.

And if we wanna talk about psychological effects, how about how demoralizing it is to fight against an enemy who is literally using crossbows in the 19th-20th century. The Boxers have seen more scary weapons and unlike cavemen and ancient people have seen weapons that cause fires. Edge:Boxer Rebels

Overall: Even ignoring weapons the Boxer Rebels take this. They are simply the better warriors in every way. They are the better trained, much more experienced force and even had the support of the Qing government. They overall are the more organized and more threatening group. They gave the entire eight-nation alliance trouble for almost two years. The Eagles tried to steal some land back from the Red Army, and the Red Army laid fucking waste to them, winning in four, count them four months. And this is the 1920's Red Army, who barely holds a candle to their future might in WW2.

The Boxers are the better armed force, and ultimately the more competent and experienced force. Even being almost 20 years before the Pitchfork Uprising doesn't stop them from winning here.

Boxer Rebels:3500

Black Eagle Rebels:1500