User blog comment:Leolab/User Siege Tourney, round 45 of 50: Beastman14 (Ryan) v Leolab (Lloyd)/@comment-5043545-20140430022851

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Attacker

Overrun: We're talking about Ryan, right? The same guy who couldn't even overrun Austonio. Yeah, Ryan doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of managing to get into the fort. Combine that with the fact Lloyd is defending and you can basically assume that Ryan is never going to make it through with that human wave attack.

Force Surrender: Once again, this comes down to the fact he is facing Lloyd who has faced much worse and hasn't given up. Ryan has no bargining chips at his disposal and doesn't have any real strategy to convince Lloyd to surrender. Ryan's men are more likely to give up and quit before any of Lloyd's men decide to give up this fight.

Single Combat: See Below

Defender

Force Surrender: Lloyd can manipulate or just see the fireworks as Ryan's own men commit mutiny upon their leader. Ryan doesn't possess the loyalty to keep his troops in line and once they see who they're going up against that should be more than enough reason to quit. Lloyd can accomplish this task with a matter of days as Ryan's men begin to lose hope and kill off their commander.

TBF