User blog:Cfp3157/Season 2 Episode 4: MACV-SOG vs Spetsnaz

I'm really sorry for the delay. Anyway, last time we had my very first tie ever when the Highlander and Rajput both left the battlefield alive. Now we have the two super powers during the Cold War face off again! Fighting for Uncle Sam, we have...

MACV-SOG- The highly classfied, black ops group who started to conduct unconventional warfare against the NVA during the Vietnam War and a group so secret that not even high ranking CIA members didn't know about it.

who will take on a new oppnent....

Spetsnaz- The deadly Russiasn commandos, who spearhead the Russian Army and go behind enemy lines and commit sabotage, assassination, and gathering of enemy intel during times of war.

Those these two groups never met on the battlefield, with groups as secretive as these two, you never know. But now, when decided by you the users, only one side of the Cold War will win to decide.....

WHO...IS.....DEADLIEST!!!!!!!!



Weapons
MACV-SOG put fear into the hearts of the Viet Cong with.....

Edges
Melee: The Saperka, while getting the edge in reach and blunt trauma, is not as versatile or fast as the SOG Recon Knife. The SOG knife can thrust, slash, and even thrown if necessary. The Saperka can't compete. Edge: MACV-SOG

Close Range: The S&W has a bigger round. Edge: MACV-SOG

Mid Range: The PPSh-43 ultimately wins with the farther range, bigger magazine, and bigger muzzle velocity. Edge: Spetsnaz

Long Range: The CAR-15 has a faster RoF, bigger muzzle velocity, and has less recoile. Edge: MACV-SOG

Explosive: The RGD-5 is more portable, but the C4 may have a bigger blast and can be molded into any shape. I'm not sure on it's blast radius for sure, so I need someone to tell me for this edge to be complete. Edge: Even

X-factors
MACV-SOG/X-factor/Spetsnaz

84 Brutality 89

88 Training 85

92 Unconvetional Tactics 78

86 Physicality 89 '

Expert's Opinion: MACV-SOG (by Redkite)
I believe that MACV-SOG will prevail here. MACV-SOG was established in 1964 with the intention of being able to conduct unconventional warfare, however this expanded. At this point, MACV-SOG was so secret, not even high ranking members of the CIA knew of it's exsistance. MACV-SOG was established so America would have a rescue unit for POW's, a unit that could conduct strategic reconnaissance and a unit that could deal with the more advanced sections of Viet Cong and NVA technology and resources like the Ho-Chi Ming Trail. I believe MACV-SOG will win for several reasons here based on their experience, technology and strategy. MACV-SOG took on some of the most battle hardend rangers, marines and green berets whom had all pasted the the training demands on their previous units and the training of MACV-SOG. The intention of MACV-SOG training was built a skilled, flexible and multi-capable soldier whom could operate both reconnaissance and POW rescue and all aspects of combat related to it, aspects of reconnaissance combat including long range fighting and knowing your terrain, and aspects of POW rescue combat including close quarters combat.

MACV-SOG took battle hardened marines, rangers and green berets and only lengthend their stay in Vietnam as MACV-SOG harassed NVA and Viet Cong troops on the Ho-Chi Ming trail. MACV-SOG's strategy is concentrated maninly on strategic recon and POW rescue and all aspect related to the warfare of both. MACV-SOG soldiers learned to move in the ground silently and effectivley so they could watch and then act on strategic recon and to enter and clearly rooms quickly and effectivley with POW Rescue and this went hand in hand with they're technology, specifically being the latest and most effective weapons the US could provide.

MACV-SOG will have this. They have more specific technology to special forces warfare and more advanced technology due to the US's countless work on fighting Vietnam. MACV also have better strategy relevant to long and close range fighting and they will prevail here.

Expert's Opinion: Spetsnaz (by MilitaryBrat
The Spetsnaz are going to win this fight. And they will win it for three main reasons. The first reason is their ability to take more pain than should be humanly possible. Sonny Puzikas and Maxim Franz demonstrated this perfectly. Max was able to stand up to Geoff's punches. And he isn't exactly your neighborhood teenage virgin either. Another part of this is the Spetsnaz capability to give pain. It is drilled into their heads that if they want to give pain, they need to know how to take pain as well. You get treated like shit, beaten up, and basically put through hell for 25-50 weeks. 1 in 3 people don't finish Spetsnaz training.

Another part of the spetsnaz's victory is the training. Yes I started last paragraph but I'm talking more about it. Like I said its 25-50 weeks of hell. In Spetsnaz training, the instructors basically do things to you that would not be allowed in Western countries. Russia is known for not really giving a crap about human rights. And it really shows in Spetsnaz training. They're made to swim in pools of blood to familirize themselves with the stench of it.

And lastly you have all the misselaneous things that make this warrior's victory. The Spetsnaz were founded by Soviet General Georgy Zhukov. He established 46 Spetsnaz Companies in 1950. The Spetsnaz have fought in every conflict the Soviet Union as been in since 1950. They've really only had one difficulty, and that was in dealing with the Mujahadeen freedom fighters in the 1970's and 1980's. That was only because they were fighting a guerilla group. But they have most likely gotten better, and developed better tactics to combat said threat since then.

Battle
TBA

Final Verdict
TBA