User blog comment:Postapocfan1999/Joel (The Last of Us) vs Bill (Left 4 dead 1)/@comment-10190509-20130714035455/@comment-10190509-20130716182138

jeez guys, such a long conversation about this, it's my vote and my opinion on the weapons, not a factual statement. both were not designed exclusively for melee combat like a broadsword or axe would be. i meant improvised melee as in when you don't have a good machete or knife to kill the person with.

and it's hard to kill with a single blow from either of these, you'd need lots of training and accuracy to hit a fatal spot with the rifle/pipe.