User blog:Tybaltcapulet/Geronimo vs Theodore Roosevelt

Theodore Roosevelt: The exuberant Rough RIder who defeated the Spanish at San Juan Hill and became America's 26th president

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Geronimo: The medicine man who slaughtered many Mexicans and rose up against the United State's expansion

WHO IS DEADLIEST?!

Theodore Roosevelt
'''Theodore "T.R." Roosevelt, Jr.'''  was the 26th President of the United States (1901–1909). He is noted for his exuberant personality, range of interests and achievements, and his leadership of the Progressive Movement, as well as his "cowboy" persona and robust masculinity. He was a leader of the Republican Party and founder of the first incarnation of the short-lived Progressive ("Bull Moose") Party of 1912. Before becoming President, he held offices at the city, state, and federal levels.

Roosevelt's achievements as a naturalist, explorer, hunter, author, and soldier are as much a part of his fame as any office he held as a politician. Roosevelt was 42 years old when sworn in as President of the United States in 1901, making him the youngest president ever; he beat out the youngest elected president, John F. Kennedy, by only one year. Roosevelt was also the first of only three sitting presidents to have won the Nobel Peace Prize. The Teddy bear is named after him, despite his contempt for being called "Teddy".

Geronimo
Geronimo was a Native American medicine man and war leader of the Chiricahua Apache tribes. Born on June 16, 1829, Geronimo was given the title "Goyakhla", "one who yawns." After Mexicans attacked Geronimo's camp and killed his family, the Native American rose up and raided Mexican and American towns and people. He had a strong desire to push Americans out of the West. Geronimo evolved into a revolutionary and spiritual leader who raised the Apaches against Americans during the American Indian Wars. In 1886, after being pursued by the 4th Cavalry, Geronimo along with some of his own tribesmen were captured and made into prisoners of war. After being released from imprisonment, Geronimo fell ill of pneumonia and died of his sickness on February 17, 1909.

Bowie Knife (Roosevelt)
A Bowie knife  is a pattern of fixed-blade fighting knife created by James Black in the early 19th century for Jim Bowie, who had become famous for his use of a large knife at a duel known as the Sandbar Fight.

Since the first incarnation, the Bowie knife has come to incorporate several recognizable and characteristic design features, although in common usage the term refers to any large sheath knife with a crossguard and a clip point.The knife pattern is still popular with collectors; in addition to various knife manufacturing companies there are hundreds of custom knife makers producing Bowies and variations.

Length: 12–18 in

Weight: 2lbs

Tomahawk (Geronimo)
The Tomahawk is a Native American axe typified by its small head. The first metal Tomahawk heads were used as trade items, and based off Royal Navy boarding axe heads. The tomahawk has straight handle. The axe was used both as utility tool and as a weapon, both by Native Americans and by American colonists. The opposite side of the blade usually had a spike, a hammer, or in the case of some tomahawks designed mostly as showpieces, a pipe.

Length: 2-3 feet

Weight: 9-20oz

Colt M1892 (Roosevelt)
The M1892 Colt Army & Navy was the first general issue double-action revolver with a swing-out cylinder used by the U.S. military.The revolver featured a counter-clockwise rotating cylinder, which could be opened for loading and ejection by simply pulling back on a catch mounted on the left side of the frame behind the recoil shield. It was easily manipulated by the thumb of the right hand, and upon release the cylinder could be poked out sideways with the shooter's forefinger. Empty cases were removed by simply pushing back on an ejector rod to activate a star extractor. The six-shooter could then be quickly reloaded and the cylinder clicked back into place.

Weight: 2.07 lbs.

Length:11.5 inches (292 mm)

Round: .38 Long Colt

Capacity:6-round cylinder, single-shot

Muzzle Velocity:770 ft/s (235 m/s)

Colt Single Action Army (Geronimo)
The Colt Single Action Army revolver (also known as the Peacemaker) is a single-action revolver developed in the 1870's for U.S. military use. It saw extensive use in combat in the Plains Indians Wars (finding its way into the hands of the Native Americans themselves) and in the wars with Mexico. It was also used extensively by Cowboys.

Weight:2.2 lbs.

Length:11 in.

Round:.45 Colt (11.43x33mm)

Capacity:6-round cylinder, single-shot

Muzzle Velocity:960 ft/s

Winchester Model 1876(Both)
Winchester rifle is a comprehensive term describing a series of lever-action repeating rifles manufactured by the Winchester Repeating Arms Company. Developed from the 1860 Henry rifle, Winchester rifles were among the earliest repeaters. The Winchester Model 1876, or Centennial Model, was a heavier-framed rifle than the Models 1866 and 1873, chambered for full-powered centerfire rifle cartridges suitable for big-game hunting, rather than the handgun-sized rimfire and centerfire rounds of its predecessors. While similar in design to the 1873, the 1876 was actually based on a prototype 1868 lever-action rifle that was never commercially produced by Winchester.

Weight: 9.5lb (4.3kg)

Length: 49.3in (125.2cm)

Round: .44-40 Winchester

Capacity: 15-round tube magazine

X-factors:
Tactics

Roosevelt: Roosevelt's tactical achievements are actually quite lackluster. His most famous battle that he took part in the Battle of San Juan Hill, was pretty unimpressive, as he led his men in a straight line right towards enemy fire.

Geronimo: Apaches like Geronimo would use guerrilla warfare including, hit and run tactics, ambushes, and would attempt to avoid most major confrontations.

Experience

Roosevelt: For military experience, Roosevelt only really has the Spanish-American which he was a participant in, but the war only lasted less than a year.

Geronimo: Geronimo had experience since his twenties after his village was raided by a Mexican militia and his family was killed. He took part in multiple revenge raids against them, and then took part in the Apache-US war over many years.

Brutality

Roosevelt: Really the only brutality worth mentioning for Roosevelt is how he simply threw his men (in a straight line no less) right into enemy fire, completely disregarding them. Other than that there weren't really any war crime recorded in the Spanish-American war.

Geronimo: Geronimo's hatred for Mexicans caused him to indiscriminately kill them with a special vehemence. As for everyone else, his only motivation for combat was to defend his land, and he no real animosity towards the U.S or most white settlers.

Training

Roosevelt: Roosevelt really didn't have much formal training, but it can be inferred that he at least was trained in basics firearm usage and other basic training rudiments.

Geronimo: The Apaches were a raiding culture and therefore and any real training that Geronimo would receive would be while raiding. Tactics, basic weapon usage and discipline would be instilled in these raids.

Setting/Voting

This battle will be a 10 v 10 skirmish in a desert in New Mexico. Roosevelt is sent to scout out new territory there after his victory at San Juan Hill. He creates a small base in the desert and summons a scouting party. Geronimo will ambush them during their own patrol, as they are searching for a group of Mexican soldiers who razed a small village of theirs.

Format 1: Detailed edge based vote with good grammar and that isn't just a couple of words or a sentence.

Format 2: 7 sentence paragraph detailing why you believe a certain warrior will win.

Votes like: "Geronimo cuz Apaches rock" or "Teddy Roosevelt cuz the Rough Riders kick butt" will not count.

X-factors are not required in your vote but are appreciated.

I hold the final say as to whether a vote counts or not, guidelines not withstanding.Voting will end when I am satisfied the the quality and quantity of votes.