User blog comment:El Alamein/The Joker Gang vs. the Woodbury Army/@comment-5795750-20131124024444

BG1's "Let Anarchy Reign" Edges:

Knives: Bowie vs Switchblade - where have I heard that before? In spite of what DW said in that particular comparison, I am calling this a tie since the Joker and Governor possess equal skill with their knives and the switchblade's concealability and speed cancels out the edge the Bowie knife has in sheer power and size

EDGE: Even

Sidearms: Despite the skill of the Woodbury Soldiers, the Joker Gang is packing 3 handguns compared to the Woodbury's 1

EDGE: Joker Gang

Shotguns: As both are pump-action shotguns, they stand toe-to-toe in most stats however I will have to give this to the Ithaca since with a sawed-off shotgun (like the Remington 870) recoil is increased and range is decreased

EDGE: Woodbury

SMGs: I'm guessing the MAC-10 is using the .45 ACP ammo - in that case I will have to give the edge to MP5K for its greater range and muzzle velocity; the MAC-10 is a feisty firearm but its leaning towards causing fear than death

EDGE: Woodbury

Rifles: So what we have here are two similar guns in terms of firepower and range however the M1 is outdated compared to the M14 (being the latter's predecessor and all) and it lacks the ease of reloading the M14 has (especially with that pinging sound as the clip ejects out of the M1)

EDGE: Woodbury

Grenades: Grenade launcher > just throwing grenades; enough said

EDGE: Woodbury

Special: I'm calling this even because although both can kill with one shot, the Type 69 RPG has the potential to cause collateral damage (and even indirect kills when fired upon a structure near the combatants) and well... the Browning is just very powerful but when an RPG warhead is thrown at it or at the mount (either on some sandbags or at a vehicle), game over and the Browning becomes unusable

EDGE: Even

Vehicle: The Humvee is smaller than a school bus and as a military utility vehicle it can be a lot faster and more agile than the simple old school bus (note: if the M2 Browning is the machine gun mounted on it then when it is destroyed by the RPG, you've just killed two birds with one stone)

EDGE: Woodbury

X-Factors

Psychological Warfare: The Governor is very overprotective of his territory in the post-apocalyptic world whereas the Joker just wants to cause anarchy and lulz (especially in Gotham); if I had to choose I would definitely say the Joker gets this edge because his way of getting to his goals is very unpredictable, something the Governor and his men would have never ever seen before

EDGE: Joker

Strategy: The Joker gang actually get this edge because of their ability to adapt on the fly (even if it meant sacrifices have to be made) and downplay any strategy his enemies have (as part of his intelligent insanity)

EDGE: Joker (just)

Combat Experience: I say that dealing with the criminal underworld, Gotham city police, SWAT and the Batman is some very tough-and-rumble stuff to get through; much more than zombies and a pesky patched-up team of zombie hunters/survivors (though I will concede that some of the Governor's men have been in human combat before the zombie outbreak)

EDGE: Joker

Endurance: I will call this a tie based on your argument for the Woodbury people being simple citizens but then again some members of the Woodbury Army are ex-soldiers compared to the thugs on Joker's team

EDGE: Even

Intelligence: All that needs to be said here has already been said by you

EDGE: Joker

Creativity: As terrorists and able adapters, the Joker and his men can simply formulate new measures on the fly and use the environment and what they know about their opponents to their advantage; but simply the edge is even since the Woodbury Army are essentially fighting on their own turf and thus know the area a little bit more

EDGE: Even

Weapon Use: Again, you've summed up the argument neatly; and I guess this is the only edge that the Woodbury Army have

EDGE: Woodbury

Brutality: Joker gang gets this by a longshot since they are terrorists; the Governor may be brutal and disturbing but the Joker is just downright crazy and sick

EDGE: Joker

Going by numbers: Average of 78.9 for Joker Gang; Average of 78 for Woodbury Army

EDGE: Joker (just barely)

Overall Edge: So the Woodbury Army take most of the weapons edges and the Joker Gang sweep most of the X-Factors... In this case of tower defense and all, I will have to give this to the Joker Gang simply because of their ability to relentlessly strike fear and chaos into their enemies before killing them; sure the group itself suffers slightly because of some mishaps but the Joker as their leader is way more intelligent and unpredictable compared to the Governor, and given his state of mind, he doesn't care if his men are going down so long as his plans (whatever they are) move ahead whereas the Governor in his mad mind might make tactical blunders