User blog:Wassboss/Rootin' Tootin' Wild West Shootin': Dutch van der Linde vs "Lucky" Ned Pepper

The Old West was achaotic time in America's history where violence was common placem, life was hard and short and criminals had almost as much power as the law enforcement trying to stop them. In today's battle we pit two fictional outlaws with large bounties on their heads and the willingness to do whatever ever it takes to survive in a lawless world. When the clock strikes noon and guns are drawn a small town in the Badlands will be soaked red with blood but only one person will be getting out alive as;

Dutch van der Linde: The maverick outlaw who was driven insane by the encroachment of modern civilisation.

takes on

"Lucky" Ned Pepper: The notorious outlaw of True Grit and leader of the gang harbouring Tom Chaney.

Who is Deadliest

Dutch van der Linde


"This place... ain't no such thing as civilised."

- Dutch on America

Dutch van der Linde is the leader of the self named Dutch's gang. Originally the gang included John Marston, Bill Williamson and Javier Escuella but the gang disbanded after Dutch slowly began to slip into insanity. Dutch disappeared for many years until resurfacing as the leader of a gang of disenfranchised young Native Americans in West Elizabeth. Originally robbing banks to give money to those in need, Dutch's slip into insanity lead to him adopting a more nihilistic approach and he was eventually hunted down by his former friend John Marston, where he committed suicide to avoid being killed by the government.

'''Custom Smith & Wesson Schofield Model 3"
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Dutch's weapon of choice when going into combat is a pair of customised Schofield Revolvers. A single-shot revolver with a .44 S&W round, the Schofield Model 3 has a muzzle velocity of 244 m/s, a six round chamber and a range of about 45 metres. Evans Repeating Rifle
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The Evans Rifle is a lever action repeating rifle with a massive magazine of 28 rounds, a maximum range of 450 feet and a .44 calibre bullet. Despite it's range, powerful round and large ammo pool the weapon failed the standard issue dust test and was considered unreliable after significant wear and tear. Winchester 1897
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The Winchester 1897 shotgun was pump action with a 12 gauge round,a 5 round tubular magazine and a range of about 20 metres. Colt Single Action Army
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The choice of sidearm for Dutch's gang members was the Colt single action revolver. It had a standard 6 round chamber, a range of about 45 metres, a muzzle velocity of 300 m/s and .44 colt round.

"Lucky Ned Pepper"


"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"

- Ned Pepper to Rooster Cogburn.

"Lucky" Ned Pepper was the leader of a gang of outlaws he is well known to law enforcement for his various crimes and is hiding out in Indian Territory to the north, out of the jurisdiction of law enforcement. Dragged into a fight he wanted no part of because of fellow gang member Tom Chaney, he strikes up a deal with Rooster Cogburn to release the captured Mattie Ross in exchange for his freedom. However Cogburn went back on the deal and confronted Pepper as he tried to escape. In the ensuring firefight Pepper's luck ran out and he was gunned down from a distance by the Texas ranger La Boeuf.

Remington Model 1875
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Ned Pepper's weapon of choice is a Remington 1875 with a four leaf clover engraving on the handle. It is a single action revolver and has a .45 Colt round, a 6 round chamber, a muzzle velocity of about 224m/s and a range of 50 metres. Winchester 1866 "Yellowboy"
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The Winchester 1866 "Yellowboy" is a lever action repeating rifle with a magazine of 13 .44 henry rounds. It has a range of 300 feet and was modified to be more portable and usable on horseback at the cost of sacrificing the accuracy. Colt 1878 Coach Gun
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A weapon commonly carried by coach drivers in order to fight off bandits the Colt 1878 comes with two 12 gauge barrel and would've been used exclusively in close quarters.  Smith & Wesson Schofield Model 3
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A single-shot revolver with a .44 S&W round, the Schofield Model 3 has a muzzle velocity of 244 m/s, a six round chamber and a range of about 45 metres.

X Factors
Experience: Dutch van der Linde=80/Ned Pepper=70

Dutch has been an outlaw since a young age and in that time has fought against rival outlaw gangs, lawmen and bounty hunters from numerous states, government agents and even the US military on two separate occasions. Ned’s rating suffers because we don’t know all that much about him other than he’s a notorious outlaw with a bounty in at least one state. It’s safe to assume he’s had his fair few run in with the law and possibly other outlaws as well but it’s unlikely to be as extensive as Dutch’s experience.

Leadership: Dutch van der Linde=90/Ned Pepper=80

Dutch is a brilliantly charismatic leader and is able to create a sort of cult of personality around himself, gathering a large gang of devout followers and later rallying disenfranchised Native Americans into fighting against the government. Ned seems to be a fairly good leader in as much as none of his gang members seem dissatisfied although it is worth noting Tom Chaney ignores his demand to leave Mattie alive so make of that what you will.

Mental Health: Dutch van der Linde=50/Ned Pepper=80

Driven insane by encroaching civilisation and the taming of the wild west it’s safe to say Dutch is hardly the most mentally well individual. His plans get steadily more convoluted as time goes on and is incredibly paranoid about being betrayed, not to mention his narcissistic and psychopathic tendencies. Ned Pepper on the other hand seems pretty well adjusted and never shows any signs of mental health problems.

Brutality: Dutch van der Linde=90/Ned Pepper=85

Both are notorious outlaws and killers so naturally neither have many qualms about killing people. However, what gets Dutch a higher rating is that he despatches his enemies in a much more brutal way as well as being quick to resort to violence even against people who pose him little threat. Ned is far more reasonable as shown when he insists on dropping Mattie off alive somewhere instead of killing her. In a way this X Factor is linked to the Mental Health X Factor above; Dutch is significantly more unhinged and so is more likely to resort to brutal violence rather than saner Ned Pepper.

Voting System/Notes
Dutch and Ned will initially start with only their personal weapons and their men will be armed with the other weapons listed.

This will be a five on five with Dutch and Ned being joined by 4 of their gang members.

Battle takes place in your stereotypical Wild West town.

In order to be counted in full, votes must be at least 5 lines long or have been done in an edge format.

Anything less than 5 lines but which is competently argued and thought out will be counted as a half vote. I will inform anybody if their vote is considered a half vote and allow them to amend it to bring it up to a full point.

Irrelevant votes will not be counted at all.

I reserve the right to award a vote as half or discount it entirely for reason not mentioned here if I feel it is applicable.