User blog:Elgb333/Saber (Fate/stay night) vs Jack Horner (Fables)



Let’s all face it... life is very boring. No matter how awesome world history tells you, or how awe-inspiring the natural facts amaze you, this world’s still mediocre, compared to what we can create in our heads. This is the reason why fiction exists. To placate and fuel our conscience with feats of wonder, even though we know they’re untrue. Since the dawn of time, we loved to tell stories. Stories about heroes and villains, or gods and monsters, which are too great and too senseless for us to believe.

The most popular of these are the legendary folk heroes, written in every culture out there. They shaped the culture as well as the values of their native country. And while folk heroes nowadays are replaced by their successors seen in films, comics, literature and anime, they still are remembered and relevant to being the first badasses of their home.

Their legends are too great, that sometimes fiction would whisk them away from their worlds, and put them here in the modernized century. And no series out there are the best representation of their contemporary adventures that Fate/stay night and Fables! Both series loved to take heroes from old and put them in the world of the digital age. But now their respective champions are here to fight!

Saber (Fate/stay night)
Saber (セイバー, Seibā?) is one of the main characters of Fate/Zero and one of the three main heroines of Fate/stay night. She is the Saber-class Servant of Kiritsugu Emiya in the Fourth Holy Grail War and Shirou Emiya in the Fifth Holy Grail War. In Fate/stay night, she is Shirou Emiya's servant while in Fate/Zero, she is Kiritsugu Emiya's Servant. An agile and powerful warrior, Saber is loyal, independent, and reserved; she appears cold, but is actually suppressing her emotions to focus on her goals. Her class is considered the "Most Outstanding", with excellent ratings in all categories.

Her full name is Arturia Pendragon, a character inspired by the legends of King Arthur. Arturia is the British King, (fictional) At her nativity, Uther decides to not publicly announce Arturia's birth or gender, fearing his subjects will never accept a woman as a legitimate ruler. She is entrusted by Merlin to a loyal knight, Sir Ector, who raises her as a surrogate son. When Arturia is fifteen, King Uther dies leaving no known eligible heir to the throne. Britain enters a period of turmoil following the growing threat of invasion by the Saxons. Merlin soon approaches Arturia, explaining that the British people will recognize her as a destined ruler if she withdraws Caliburn, a ceremonial sword embedded in a large slab of stone. However, pulling this sword is symbolic of accepting the hardships of a monarch, and Arturia will be responsible for preserving the welfare of her people. Without hesitation and despite her gender, she draws Caliburn and shoulders Britain's mantle of leadership.

Despite her immense strength and fighting abilities, Arturia is plagued by feelings of guilt and inferiority throughout her reign; she sacrifices her emotions for the good of Britain, yet many of her subjects and knights become critical of her lack of humanity and cold calculation. She was wounded during Battle of Camlann. Her dying body is escorted to a holy isle by Morgan le Fay and Sir Bedivere. Before her last breath, she appeals to the world; in exchange for services as a Heroic Spirit, she asks to be given an opportunity to relive her life, where someone more suitable and effective would lead Britain in her stead.

Weapons and Abilities
Offensive #1=Excalibur Excalibur: Sword of Promised Victory is the strongest and most majestic holy sword that symbolizes King Arthur. As that which can be called the physical actualization of her ideals and the symbol of her heroism, it is her greatest and most powerful Noble Phantasm. Excalibur is a typical Western sword with a length of ninety centimeters and a width of twelve centimeters, and it has Fairy Letters inscribed on it to show that it is not the work of mankind. Charging it with energy to slash an enemy, called the gold version, brings about an overwhelmingly superior power. It is an "ultimate killing technique" that releases light holding energy in the form of a beam equaling Artoria's total amount of magical energy from the tip of the blade once the sword is swung. However, Saber can only use it one at a time due to its high demand of magic. Still, the sword is very powerful indeed, once capable of killing Caster as well as the omnipotent Holy Grail with one slash.

Invisible Air: Bounded Field of the Wind King is a sheath of wind that covers Excalibur and conceals it so that it cannot be easily recognized as the famous holy sword of King Arthur and expose her identity.It is a bounded field closer that is made up of multiple layers of wind compressed into super-high pressure air with a massive amount of magical energy, which distorts the refraction of light and renders what is inside completely invisible. With this, Saber can create a barrier of air as a defensive wall, as well as release a powerful but slow gale of wind to attack people from afar called Strike Air. Not only that, but Saber can also use Invisible Air to boost her speed and attack damage.
 * -|Offensive #2=Invisible Air

Avalon: The Everdistant Utopia is the hallowed scabbard of Excalibur. The holder of the scabbard is granted potent healing, allowing for critical and fatal wound to be rapidly repaired to restore the wielder's health. But its main function as a Noble Phantasm is to be an "absolute defense" that forms a small barrier which displaces Saber from reality and puts her in the world of Fairies. In short it renders any physical attack useless, as well as capable of repelling all the five True Magics and even Gilgamesh's Enuma Elish, a dimension-splitting attack. In addition to protecting Saber, Avalon reflects back physical attacks to the sender thus putting her opponent into a highly disadvantageous situation. It's main weakness however, is that it can only be put up and used in just a few seconds and takes very long time before it can be summoned again.
 * -|Defensive #1=Avalon

Saber utilizes armor woven by her magical energy and it can be called part of her body, so it can be called forth for battle and dismissed for normal interactions. It is heavy, hard silver-white and azure armor including gauntlets, greaves, a breastplate, and long tassets shaped like a skirt that act as impregnable defenses made from magical energy overpowering others. Being made from her energy, it easily loses powers when her magic is used up, and is weak against abilities that target magical energy like Gae Dearg.
 * -|Defensive #2=Armor

Jack Horner
Jack Horner, also known as the Jack of Tales or popularly as the legendary Jack of Fables is a major character in the Fables comic book series and The Wolf Among Us video game adaptation. He is the Literal personification of all tricksters in fiction. The character is based on various nursery rhymes and fables with characters named Jack including Little Jack Horner, Jack and the Beanstalk, Jack and Jill, Jack Be Nimble, Jack Frost, Jack O'Lantern, and Jack the Giant Killer and others

As a con artist, he is always looking for quick ways to make a buck. However, Jack also displays a complete disregard for human life or the feelings of those around him, traits most often seen in those with sociopathy. Despite his scheming and reckless personality, he is a devoted foe of the Adversary and a capable combatant in his own right, due to his years of experience fighting giants. He can also have true feelings for others (he asks Beast about Snow White and her cubs, he mourns his wife's death and he considered putting his own safety at risk to protect Gary when the Librarians had captured them and were having a car accident). In the series, Jack creates a film trilogy of his adventures to increase his popularity in the Mundy world making him "nigh-immortal". In his devoted spin-off series "Jack Of Fables", his nigh-immortality seems to be reinforced by other causes as well : he is the son of a literal woman and one of the most popular male Fables (making him a "part-Literal", which is equivalent to a demigod), and he has made countless deals with many devils during his Jack O' Lantern days. Jack is often presented as believing himself to be far smarter than he truly is and for a man who has lived a long time, has little regard for history (at one point, he compares himself to Sam Bowie and Hector and how "like them, I will be victorious."). The common thread is how Jack honestly believes he is the most important person around and only his needs and desires matter.

Weapons and Abilities
Offensive #1=Cavalry Sabre and Magical Firearms Jack's most prominent weapon is his Confederate cavalry saber, which he uses during the American Civil War, his outlaw days in the West and during the Battle of Fabletown. The sword is a typical Model 1860 Light Cavalry Saber that has a curved 35 inch blade. He also utilized many forms of magical firearms throughout the series such as revolvers, pistols, shotguns, machine guns and bombs. Aside from that, Jack is very fast on the draw, and can gun down multiple man in one motion (though not as fast as Bigby Wolf). He is also master marksman with any firearm and can hit anything whatever the distance.

Although not frequently, Jack has been known to utilize magic from time to time in his adventures. During his time in the Homelands, he once had the power of winter, summon giant beanstalks with magic, and once killed the indestructible Headless Horseman with a brimstone from Hell. And in the last arc he has the ability of becoming a dragon (against his will) as well as precognition; to know future events and manipulate them. As a half-literal, Jack inherited reality-bending powers that allows him to will anything that he wants.
 * -|Offensive #2=Magic

His dragon form is a formidable creature in its own right. It is near-indestructible, with skin that can repel physical and magical attacks, a regenerative ability, wings that enables it to fly, and flames that can kill magical creatures outright.

The supernatural burlap sack is an item Jack won after defeating the Devil at a game of cards. This powerful sack was used by the Devil to collect the souls of sinners as well as a weapon. It can suck everything inside whatever size, shape, distance or power it has in it's powerful vortex which virtually unescapable and bottomless in its nature. It can be used to suck people in and hypothetically disarm opponents from their weapons before getting sucked in as well. Once inside, it is impossible to get out, and only the owner, which is Jack, is the only one who can free them. Even all-powerful, nigh-omnipotent and omnipresent beings such as Death cannot escape it.
 * -|Defensive #1=Devil's Burlap Sack

By using all of his tricks as well as his part-Literal nature, Jack has gained both immortality and indestructibility. After tricking a whole legion of Devils (including Lucifer, Chernabog, Old Nick and others), he managed to make himself unkillable until the day the Devils take their due. But Jack Horner also found a loop hole in this by finding another way of making himself immortal so the Devils wouldn't be able to collect his soul. Other factors also reinforced this as well, such as his Literal nature and and popularity with the mundies. Being invincible, Jack is immune both to physical and magical attacks.
 * -|Defensive #2=Nigh-Invincibility

He can survive virtually anything that is used against him no matter how omnipotent and destructive it is. He'll get wounded or knocked down but he will always get back up like it was nothing. His invincibility come to the point that even the Universe and Fate itself couldn't kill him.

X-Factors
 Saber vs Jack

90 - Close Quarters - 70

Both characters are capable melee combatants in their own rights. Jack is no slouch in a physical confrontation. Unlike Saber, in terms of strength he has the edge, capable of lifting heavy objects like they were nothing. His combination of superhuman strength and durability allows him to take on and mix in during a fist fight, which he has shown during his fight with Bigby, countless giants, and others. However, he always gets his ass kicked most of the time when faced with a more physically imposing or a better trained foe. Heck, if given the chance he'd try to escape physical fights and talk his way out, but only when he is motivated where he fights in his best. Saber on the other hand, is a monster in an up-close fight. She has trained most of her life as a knight, and is more knowledgeable in any forms of weaponry but mostly in swords. Although she gets her ass kicked as well in most of her battles in the series, she still nonetheless, is the more successful of the two in a fight, which can be seen during her battle with the physically imposing Berserker and Gilgamesh (not an easy feat).

80 - Durability and Magical Resistance - 96

Well this is no doubt a win for good ol' Jack. Horner is practically unkillable due to his nigh-invincibility. Saber's armor and nature maybe highly resistant to magic, but Horner is immune to it all. But most of all, Saber's durability is rooted on her magic. Once she run out that's where her defenses weakens (or disappears). His durability isn't the best in comic history, but Jack has taken all sorts of unbelievable ways by which the Universe tries to kill him. But he always gets back up quickly to fight back. If even fate, destiny and the Universe cannot kill you then what else can? Probably nothing.

90 - Training - 80

Saber has trained almost all of her life in combat. As a knight, she has undertaken professional training in warfare and combat. And as a nobility they made sure that she gets the best her time and country can offer. There's been no mention what training Jack has except as a giant killer and as a Confederate soldier, but in his lifetime most of it was probably self-trained.

88 - Experience - 95

Now don't get me wrong, Saber has experienced numerous conflicts, both war and magical, as well as fought a variety of monstrous and superior foes, and mostly she has come up on top. But this is nothing compared to what Jack Horner has been through. That bastard has a millinea of experience in fighting monsters and foes. After his adventures as a mercenary, Jack has fought in the War of the Adversary, the American Civil War and the War of the Literal Gods. Unlike Saber whose expertise are in the sword, Jack is the bigger expert on a larger range of combat, such as stealth, strategy and marksmanship. He's been a gunslinger, a giant killer, a God, a trickster, a soldier and so much more.

90 - Intelligence - 98

They're both smart combatants but mostly rely on others to carry out their plans or save their asses. While Saber has the edge in being a better and hearty leader, Jack on the other hand is a literal personification of tricksters. Though his petty shemes fail, when tricking more dangerous foes, he's won them all. Not only that, but he's the better tactician of the two in a battle. He tricked a whole legions of Devils and Gods for breakfast and escaped unescapable situations. Not only that, but he's a master loophole finder that can even cheat the Universe and Death itself.

Battle
Prologue