User blog:SPARTAN 119/Suleiman the Magnificent vs Oda Nobunaga

Suleiman the Magnificent, the Ottoman sultan who seized large parts of Eastern Europe and brought the Ottoman Empire to its height.

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Oda Nobunaga, the Japanese daimyo who initiated the unification of Japan.

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=Combatants (modified from Wikipedia)=

Suleiman the Magnificent
Suleiman the Magnificent (1494-1566), also known as "Suleiman The Lawgiver" for his complete reconstruction of the Ottoman legal system. Suleiman became a prominent monarch of 16th century Europe, presiding over the apex of the Ottoman Empire's military, political and economic power from. Suleiman personally led Ottoman armies to conquer the Christian strongholds of Belgrade, Rhodes, and most of Hungary before his conquests were checked at the Siege of Vienna in 1529. He annexed most of the Middle East in his conflict with the Safavids and large swathes of North Africa as far west as Algeria. Under his rule, the Ottoman fleet dominated the seas from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf.

Oda Nobunaga
Oda Nobunaga (織田 信長), June 23, 1534 – June 21, 1582) was the initiator of the unification of Japan under the rule of the shogun in the late 16th century, a ruling that ended only with the opening of Japan to the Western world in 1868. He was also a major daimyo during the Sengoku period of Japanese history. His opus was continued, completed and finalized by his successors Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyasu. He was the second son of Oda Nobuhide, a deputy shugo (military governor) with land holdings in Owari Province. Nobunaga lived a life of continuous military conquest, eventually conquering a third of Japanese daimyo before his death in 1582. His successor, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, a loyal Oda supporter, would eventually become the first man to conquer all of Japan and the first ruler of all Japan since the Ōnin War.

=Weapons=

Yataghan (Suleiman)
The Yataghan is a long knife or short sword about 75 centimeters in length. The weapon had no handguard, and a forward-curving single edged blade.

Wakizashi (Oda)
The Wakizashi is a Japanese short sword with a blade between 30 and 60 centimeters, similar in appearance to a smaller katana. The wakizashi had a short, single edged, slightly curving blade for close combat, and in some case, committing ritual suicide.

119's Edge
Suleiman's Yataghan for its longer reach.

Kilij (Suleiman)
The Kilij is a Turkish scimitar with a pronounced curve and a reinforced point. The kilij is a powerful slashing weapon that, as seen on an episode of Deadliest Warrior is capable of slicing a pig carcass in half.

Katana (Oda)
The katana is the classic "samurai sword", with an extremely sharp curved single-edged blade forged from layers of hard, medium and soft steel to provide the optimum combination of strength and flexibility.

119's edge
Both swords are powerful cutting weapons, even.

Ottoman Halberd (Suleiman)
The halberd is a polearm that combines and axe, a spearpoint, and a spike mounted on a 5-6 foot pole. The spear was effective in combat with mounted opponents, with spike allowing the user to hook onto a cavalry man and pull them off their horse.

Yari (Oda)
The yari is straight-bladed spear with a blade on top anywhere from less than one to three feet in length. The pole can be up over six meters in length. The yari often had a crossbar under the blade. Around the time of Oda Nobunaga, yari were often used in combination of firearms, with the yari covering the gunners as they reloaded.

119's Edge
Oda's Yari, for its greater length.

Flanged Mace (Suleiman)
The flanged mace is a metal blunt weapon with flanges, or narrow sections to focus the impact. The weapon could easily crush bones.

Chigiriki
The chigiriki is a Japanese flail consisting of a wooden staff with a metal weight chained to the end. The weapon can be used as a blunt instrument or to entangle and opponents weapon.

119's Edge
Oda Nobunaga's Chigiriki for its versatility.

Turkish Recurve Bow (Suleiman)
The Turkish recurved bow made from a laminate of wood, horn, and animal sinew. This gave it greater flexibility, allowing it to fire arrows with greater force. The Turks were skilled at using the weapon on horseback.

Yumi (Oda)
The yumi is a large Japanese longbow, sometimes being longer than the user is tall. The weapon is made from a composite of wood, bamboo, and leather.

119's edge
Suleiman's composite bow for its greater mobility.

Ottoman Matchlock (Suleiman)
The Ottomans used a simple type of matchlock firearm, a musket fired using a slow-burning cord or "match" the was placed against a touchhole using a spring loaded mechanism activated by a simple trigger. The matchlock was most effective when fired in volleys at relatively close ranges, where it proved effective at piercing even plate armor.

Tanegashima Musket (Oda)
Named for the island on which muskets were first introduced to Japan by the Portuguese, the Tanegashima is a matchlock. Like all matchlock weapons, it proved most effective at relatively close ranges, when fired volleys, with musketeers covered by polearms. Oda Nobunaga used this tactic to his advantage at the Battle of Nanashino.

119's Edge
The Ottoman musket and the Tanegashima are effectively the same thing, even.

Great Turkish Bombard (Suleiman)
The Great Turkish Bombard, also known as the Dardanelles Gun, was a massive siege cannon built in 1464. The gun fired a massive 63cm ball. Over 400 years after it was built, in 1807, the Dardanelles Gun was fired on a fleet of British ships and functioned perfectly, causing 28 casualties. The gun could be divided into two pieces for easier transport

Bronze 2 Pounder (Oda)
The 16th-century Japanese did not use much in the way of heavy cannon, however, at the time of Nobunaga, they did possess a few 2 pound Bronze cannon, with a barrel about nine feet in length.

119's Edge
While the Dardanelles Gun was unwieldy, its massive firepower and psychological effect give it the edge.