User blog comment:Sppople/Sauron vs. Darth Vader/@comment-4484220-20140308022759/@comment-5138827-20140309183816

K. This LOTR argument is too common among vs forums IMO. The concept of Sauron is very common across fictions; he is essentially a immortal soul tethered to a strong body with impressive armor. The same concept exists in Warhammer 40k demons and Warcraft Old Gods that I know of. If you can destroy the mortal tether (armor) it counts as a victory if the spirit cannot directly do anything more against you (which Sauron can't, else he would have kept fighting Isildur).

Nor are LOTR fighters exceptionally tough fighters by fictional standards. IN the Silmarillion Fingolfin the Elf King shanked Melkor seven times causing him great pain before cutting off his foot, which never recovered. Melkor, who is literally superior to Sauron in every way from combat ability to corruption ability to armies ect. He is descirbed as using the same armor AND Weapon as Sauron too....in fact Sauron got Grond in the films based on Melkor's depiction. And Guess what? Far from your "battalion shattering " description Morgoth beat down  Fingolfin three times before he was put down. And Fingolfin dodged it many times before that.

Now I would like to hear your argument on how Sauron was superior to Melkor, with the former literally formenting worship of the latter and acknowleding him as his master. Melkor was also a Valar, one of the strongest beings, while Sauron was a mere Maia by comparison.

With Force speed and precognition, plus TK to slow the blow (one of  the only useful applications here of it here) Vader is going to be harder to hit then you say. On contrast, even if we assume that the ring is the "tether" to this body it wouldn't take long for Vader to destroy this even accidently. Rewatch the movies and T.V. show. Lightsaber combat relies on a lot of dismemberment and the arms that wield the mace are going to be logical choices for such a target. Even if he hits the wrong arm or foot then we now have a crippled/hobbled Sauron, who lacks regeneration needed to regrow these limbs. Not even his master Melkor had such regeneration.

Agree with force choke and crush. I am going to need to ask for a citation of Sauron's metoer or volcano powers- either him doing it at all, or better yet and more importantly him doing it inside a duel or battle*. Lets not wank him with loose feats subject to hyperbole. Going to need a citation for combat capable regeneration too, in case you claim that.

Being a demigod or god in one fiction does not mean you would beat a mortal in another. I hardly think that Hermes of God of War fame would beat Goku for example in a duel. Even pre-SSJ Goku.


 * Hint you won't find any. Not even Morgoth in his later years could do that, who again is far superior to Sauron.