User blog:Tybaltcapulet/Deadliest Warrior Rematch: SWAT vs GSG-9



Terrorists and criminals. They've been behind some of the world's worst atrocities and have inspired fear in their wake. As such many countries have devised groups to combat them more effectively, usually after a great tragedy. So today in a collaboration betweenTybaltcapulet and Rikun85, we'll be determining if the Season Two episode of Deadliest Warrior "SWAT vs GSG-9" is really accurate, or if the show really does have American bias. We'll see who truly deserves to be THE DEADLIEST WARRIOR

GSG 9 (Represented by Tybaltcapulet)
Grenzschutzgruppe 9, or GSG 9 for short, is the elite counter-terrorism and special operations unit of the German Federal Police. In 1972, the Palestinian terrorist movement Black September used the Summer Olympic Games in Munich, Germany, to kidnap 11 Israeli athletes, killing two in the Olympic Village in the initial assault on the athletes' rooms. The incident tragically culminated when German police, neither trained nor equipped for counter-terrorism operations and underestimating the number of terrorists involved, attempted to rescue the athletes. They failed miserably and the operation led to the deaths of one policeman, five of the eight kidnappers and the remaining nine hostages (subsequently called the Munich massacre). Apart from the human tragedy, Germany's law enforcement found itself severely embarrassed, in part due to its historic relationship to Jews and Israel.
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As a consequence of the incident's mismanagement, German officials created the GSG-9 under the leadership of then Oberstleutnant Ulrich Wegener so that similar situations in the future could be responded to adequately and professionally. Many German politicians opposed its formation fearing GSG-9 would rekindle memories of the Nazi Party's Schutzstaffel (SS). The decision was taken to form the unit from police forces as opposed to the military as is the model in other countries on the grounds that German federal law expressly forbids the use of the military forces against the civilian population.

Germany isn't unprepared for terrorists and their threats anymore. Try to hijack a plane, kidnap someone? Forget about it, GSG 9 was handcrafted to kill you, and they'll take you down before you even know what happened. The Glock knife is a military field knife product line designed and produced by Glock Ges.m.b.H., located in Deutsch-Wagram, Austria. It can also be used as a bayonet, by engaging a socket in the pommel (covered by a plastic cap) into a bayonet adapter that can be fitted to the Steyr AUG rifle.
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Blade Length:6.5 in The Heckler & Koch VP9 (known as SFP9 in Europe and Canada) is a polymer-framed semi-automatic striker-fired handgun. The VP designation in the name refers to Volkspistole which translates to "people's pistol". The 9 stands for the caliber designation of 9 mm. The VP9 is the 3rd striker-fired pistol that HK has produced.
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Weight:25.5 oz

Cartridge:9×19mm

Magazine:20-round Detachable box magazine

The MP5 (German: Maschinenpistole 5) is a 9x19mm Parabellum submachine gun, developed in the 1960s by a team of engineers from the German small arms manufacturer Heckler & Koch GmbH (H&K) of Oberndorf am Neckar. There are over 100 variants of the MP5, including some semi-automatic versions.
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The MP5 is one of the most widely used submachine guns in the world, having been adopted by 40 nations and numerous military, law enforcement, intelligence, and security organizations. It was widely used by SWAT teams in North America, but has largely been supplemented by AR-15 variants in the 21st century.

Weight:6.2 lb

Cartridge:9×19mm

Magazine:30-round Detachable box magazine

Rate of Fire: 800 rounds/min

The Heckler & Koch HK416 is a rifle designed and manufactured by Heckler & Koch. Although its design is in large part based on the AR-15 class of weapons, specifically the Colt M4 carbine family issued to the U.S. military, it uses an HK-proprietary short-stroke gas piston system originally derived from the ArmaLite AR-18 (the same system was also used in Heckler & Koch's earlier G36 family of rifles). It is the standard assault rifle of the Norwegian Armed Forces, and was the weapon used by SEAL Team Six to kill Osama Bin Laden in 2011. It has also been selected as replacement for the FAMAS in the French Armed Forces. Weight:6.50–8.49 lb
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Cartridge:5.56×45mm NATO

Magazine:30-round detachable STANAG magazine

Range: 300 metres (330 yd)

Rate of Fire:700-900 rounds/min The Heckler & Koch Fabarm FP6 is a pump-action combat shotgun that was manufactured by the Italian firearms company Fabbrica Bresciana Armi S.p.A. (FABARM) and sold by Heckler & Koch. It was intended for civilian and law enforcement use.
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Upon severing business association with Benelli in 1998, Heckler & Koch replaced their entire line of shotguns with those manufactured by FABARM. The line featured hunting and sport shotguns in over-and-under, side-by-side, semi-automatic autoloaders and pump shotguns including youth models. For military, law enforcement and home defense use, H&K released four variants of the FP6 model. Weight:6.6 lb

Cartridge:12 gauge 2​3⁄4 & 3 inch shells

Magazine:7+1 rounds, internal tube magazine

Range:30m


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The DSR-1 is a compact bolt-action rifle designed, manufactured and marketed by the German company DSR-Precision GmbH and was (until 2004) marketed also by the German company AMP Technical Services as a specialized sniper rifle for police sharpshooters. It has been adopted by the German GSG 9 counter-terrorist unit, as well as by other European special police units and agencies.

Weight:13.01 lb

Cartridge:.308 Winchester

Magazine:5-round magazine

Range:800 m https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/M-84-Flash-Bang-Grenade.jpg
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A stun grenade, also known as a flash grenade, flashbang, thunderflash or sound bomb, is an explosive device, ostensibly non-lethal, used to temporarily disorient an enemy's senses. It is designed to produce a blinding flash of light of around 7 million candela (cd) and an intensely loud "bang" of greater than 170 decibels (dB). It was first used by the British Army's SAS in the late 1970s.

SWAT (Represented by Rikun85)
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In the United States, a SWAT (Special Weapons and Tactics) team is a law enforcement unit which uses specialized or military equipment and tactics. First created in the 1960s to handle riot control or violent confrontations with criminals, the number and usage of SWAT teams increased in the 1980s and 1990s during the War on Drugs and later in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. In the United States as of 2005, SWAT teams were deployed 50,000 times every year, almost 80% of the time to serve search warrants, most often for narcotics. SWAT teams are increasingly equipped with military-type hardware and trained to deploy against threats of terrorism, for crowd control, and in situations beyond the capabilities of ordinary law enforcement, sometimes deemed "high-risk". Other countries have developed their own paramilitary police units (PPUs) which are also described as or comparable to SWAT forces.

SWAT units are often equipped with specialized firearms including submachine guns, assault rifles, breaching shotguns, sniper rifles, riot control agents, and stun grenades. In addition, they may use specialized equipment including heavy body armor, ballistic shields, entry tools, armored vehicles, night vision devices, and motion detectors for covertly determining the positions of hostages or hostage takers, inside enclosed structures.

SWAT isn't just what you you on TV, they're the real deal. Terrorists and criminals beware the truck bearing the SWAT acronym, they'll, plan around your plan, go in, and get you out without a single death. A baton or truncheon or kosh is a roughly cylindrical club made of wood, rubber, plastic or metal. It is carried as a compliance tool and defensive weapon by law-enforcement officers, correctional staff, security guards and military personnel. In many cultures, they are highly symbolic of law enforcement and are rarely used with the intention to kill.
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Length: 26 inches https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/30/Kimberstainlesscustomii.jpg/200px-Kimberstainlesscustomii.jpg
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The Kimber Custom is an M1911 style semi-automatic pistol. It is designed, manufactured, and distributed by Kimber Manufacturing, Inc. in Yonkers, New York.The Custom is made in a variety of styles with different features and finishes. As an M1911 style pistol, it is usually chambered in .45 ACP. It also has been produced in other calibers, including .40 S&W, 10mm Auto, 9mm Luger, and .38 Super. The individual gun's caliber is stamped on top of the barrel and is visible with the slide in battery (fully forward). Weight: 38oz

Cartridge:.45 ACP

Magazine:10-round magazine

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The Heckler & Koch UMP (Universale Maschinenpistole, German for "Universal Submachine Gun") is a submachine gun developed and manufactured by Heckler & Koch. The UMP has been adopted by various agencies such as the U.S. Customs and Border Protection.Heckler & Koch developed the UMP as a lighter and cheaper successor to the MP5, though both remain in production.The UMP is a Blowback operated, magazine-fed submachine gun firing from a closed bolt.As originally designed, the UMP is chambered for larger cartridges (.45 ACP and .40 S&W) than other submachine guns like the MP5, to provide more stopping power against unarmored targets (with slightly lower effectiveness at longer range) than the MP5 (largely offered in 9×19mm, albeit with short-lived production of 10mm Auto and .40 S&W variants). A larger cartridge produces more recoil, and makes it more difficult to control in fully automatic firing.To mitigate this, the cyclic rate of fire was reduced to around 600–745 rounds per minute (RPM),making it one of the slower firing submachine guns on the market. Weight:5.8 lb

Cartridge:.45 ACP

Magazine:30-round detachable box magazine

Rate of Fire:600 rounds/min https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/PEO_M4_Carbine_RAS_M68_CCO.jpg/400px-PEO_M4_Carbine_RAS_M68_CCO.jpg
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The M4 carbine is a shorter and lighter variant of the M16A2 assault rifle. The M4 is a 5.56×45mm NATO, air-cooled, direct impingement gas-operated, magazine-fed carbine. It has a 14.5 in (370 mm) barrel and a telescoping stock.The M4 carbine is extensively used by the United States Armed Forces and is largely replacing the M16 rifle in United States Army and United States Marine Corps combat units as the primary infantry weapon and service rifle.The M4 is also capable of mounting the M203 and M320 grenade launchers. The distinctive step in its barrel is for mounting the M203 with the standard hardware. The M4 has semi-automatic and three-round burst firing modes (like the M16A2 and M16A4), while the M4A1 has semi-automatic and fully automatic firing modes (like the M16A1 and M16A3). Weight:7.49 lb

Cartridge:5.56×45mm NATO

Magazine:30-round Detachable box magazine

Rate of Fire:700–950 round/min cyclic https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/deadliestfiction/images/7/7f/Benelli_M4.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20100917225840un
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The Benelli M4 Super 90 is an Italian semi-automatic shotg manufactured by Benelli Armi SpA.

The M4 was the first gas-operated shotgun produced by Benelli. Its function is designed around an entirely new method called the "auto regulating gas operated" (ARGO) system. The short-stroke design uses two stainless-steel self-cleaning pistons located just ahead of the chamber to function opposite the rotating bolt, thereby eliminating the need for the complex mechanisms found on other gas-actuated automatics. The ARGO incorporates only four parts: two symmetrical shrouds containing two small steel gas pistons.

Additionally, the weapon is self-regulating for use with cartridges of varying length and power levels. It can fire 2.75 (70 mm) and 3-inch (76 mm) shells of differing power-levels without any operator adjustments and in any combination. Low-power rounds, such as less-lethal rubber pellets, must be cycled manually. Weight:8.42 lb

Cartridge:12 Gauge

Magazine:7+1 internal tube magazine

Range: 50m The Remington Model 700 is a series of bolt-action centerfire rifles manufactured by Remington Arms since 1962. It is a development of the Remington 721 and 722 series of rifles, which were introduced in 1948. The M24 and M40 military sniper rifles used by the US Army and USMC are both based on the Model 700 design.
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The Remington 700 series rifles often come with a 3-, 4- or 5-round internal magazine depending on the caliber chambered, some of which have a hinged floor-plate for quick unloading, and some of which are "blind" (with no floor-plate). The rifle can also be ordered with a detachable box magazine. The Model 700 is available in many different stock, barrel and caliber configurations, with many third-party and aftermarket variants in the market built on the same action footprint. Weight: 8.99 lb

Cartridge:.308 Winchester

Magazine:5-round internal magazine

Range: Various A TASER is a brand of conducted electrical weapon sold by Axon, formerly TASER International.It fires two small barbed darts intended to puncture the skin and remain attached to the target. The darts are connected to the main unit by thin insulated copper wire and deliver electric current to disrupt voluntary control of muscles, causing "neuromuscular incapacitation.” The effects of a TASER may only be localized pain or strong involuntary long muscle contractions, based on the mode of use and connectivity of the darts. The TASER was introduced as a less-lethal force option for police to use to subdue fleeing, belligerent, or potentially dangerous people, who would have otherwise been subjected to more lethal force options such as firearms.
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GSG 9 training is very selective and physically demanding. A recruit must first have already 2 years in the Bundespolizei and pass a medical and psychological examination. Physical requirements include, completing 100m dash/5000m run(in 13.4 seconds and 23 minutes respectively), being able to bench 75% of their body weight and being able to at least perform 7 chin-ups. They are trained in various counter-insurgency tactics, CQB ,melee and ground combat,rappelling, moving non-compliant individuals, battle drills, disarming and blocking attacks, and even parachuting. Only about 8-10 percent of applicants even make it all the way through and receive the certificate and the activity badge to serve in GSG 9.
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SWAT members are regularly trained for mobility with body armor, marksmanship, mobile firing, and practical scenario drills for urban combat. Specialized training is also available from the FBI and military for snipers, bomb squads, surveillance, and negotiation.SWAT members unlike GSG9 members, are never "fully trained", constantly keeping up with their skills and fitness in responding to situations quickly and efficiently. GSG 9 has operated since September 26th 1972, after the terrorist movement, Black September was able to kidnap and kill 11 athletes due to the incompetence of the German police. Since then GSG 9 has participated in over 1500 missions, most of which are classified, but unclassified engagements inlcude Operation Feuerzauber, the arrest of RAF terrorist in 1982, multiple other arrests on various terrorists, hostage situations in the Kassel Penitentiary and a hijacking of a KLM flight, just to name a few.
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SWAT was initially formed during the wake of 1965 Watts Riots and the 1966 Austin University sniper attack, SWAT is deployed to handle high risk arrests, hostage situations, barricade situations, high risk escort, terrorist attacks, and urban riots. Essentially prepared for almost any danger on a metropolitan level. They have participated in conlfict against the Symbionese Liberation Army, thousands of drug raids in the 1970's, and regularly are called to high-risk warrants.

For the sake of this battle I will be like Deadliest Warrior, using Operation Feuerzauber or Operation Fire Magic to demonstrate the efficiency of the GSG 9. To understand this a precedent must be set that this operation only took 7 minutes long to actually perform.Terrorists of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine hijacked Lufthansa Flight 181, and had been on a 4-day struggle with authorities, constantly flying across many countries, Italy, Cyprus and eventually ending up in Mogadishu,Somalia. After it had landed, GSG 9 quickly negotiated with Somalian authorities and finalize an assault plan. They silently headed up into the plane via ladders, and made the passengers know they were friendly. They split up throughout the plane opening the emergency and forward doors. After a short shootout, 3 terrorists were dead and one had been injured. Only one GSG9 operative was injured, and all passengers survived. In summation, the GSG 9 are heavily focused on quick operations, and efficiently dispatching their enemy even through lethal force.
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SWAT on the other hand while they too try to end an operation as quickly as possible, are much more focused on disorienting an opponent than actually killing them.Recon and intel are crucial for SWAT when conducting strategy. When conducting a raid they will come in as loudly as possible to disorient suspects long enough to neutralize them (ie flashbangs, gas, or just shouting to drop the weapon). They will also cover rooms as efficiently as possible to protect themselves. SWAT is reliant on good information and quick, usually non-lethal methods to take out a suspect or perpetrator.

Situation/Voting
This battle will take place inside a large inside home-like location with plenty of space, and furniture for cover . It will be a 5v5 operation, with two submachine gunners, one shotgunner, one man with an Assault rifle, and one sniper. The mission is very simple, take out the enemy squad, get out alive.

Note: (This will play out as if it is a real operation, but in actuality be a simulation for a training excersise)

Voting requirements:

Format 1: Detailed edge based vote with good grammar and that isn't just a couple of words or a sentence.

Format 2: At least a 7 sentence paragraph detailing why you believe a certain warrior will win.

X-factors are not required in your vote but are appreciated.

Me and Rikun hold the final say as to whether a vote counts or not, guidelines not withstanding.Voting will end when we are satisfied the the quality and quantity of votes.