User blog:WraithOfWaffle/Battle Eight: Carnegie (The Book of Eli) vs. The Governor (AMC's The Walking Dead)



Hello I'm TheWetWaffle and welcome to my eighth battle. Today to celebrate the return of The Walking Dead, we have two brutal men who are trying to lead a civilization in a world without rules. Carnegie, the man pursuing Eli and his Bible so he could become a monarch of religion vs. The Governor, the tyrant of Woodbury and the man who has made Rick Grimes' group of survivors fear for their lives. These two men have done some dasterdly deeds to get where they are today but only one will leave the battlefield, THE DEADLIEST WARRIOR!

Carnegie
Carnegie is a caucasian man of average build living in a post apocalyptic world but not in poverty. Instead he lives a well life as the ruler of a shanty town. He is interested in religions and even owns a copy of the Qur'an, Torah, and Tankha. He eventually learns about the man named Eli and his Bible through his daughter Solara, and wants it to complete his collection. He has his henchmen kill Eli but the shots do little and Eli shoots Carnegie in the leg, hitting him. Throughout the film, Carnegie pursuits Eli and his daughter Solara as she befriends him and tries to protect The Bible with him. But once he catches up to Eli, he shoots him and leaves him. Eli is eventually taken to Alcatraz by Solara and recites The Bible before his death. Once Eli dies, Carnegie opens The Bible but discovers that it is in Braille. He pleas for his mistress Claudia to read it but refuses to. He finds that his leg wound is septic and will die. The film ends with Carnegie's empire collapsing and all his work coming to an end.

The Governor
Phillip Blake, better known as The Governor, was the leader of the fortified town of Woodbury during the zombie apocalypse, and an enemy of Rick Grimes and his group. Once a family man with a mediocre job who's wife was killed in a car crash. After the apocalypse came and his daughter turned, the Governor soon became the leader of a small group of survivors in the town of Woodbury, while maintaining a kind and caring facade for the purpose of leadership.

Convinced that he could cure her, the Governor kept his daughter chained in a secret room inside the town of Woodbury. Her death at the hands of escaped prisoner Michonne drove him over the edge, and he rallied the people of Woodbury, convincing them that the survivors who were captured and escaped from Woodbury were cruel and vicious in an attempt to kill Michonne and avenge his daughters death. Despite his leadership, the Woodbury Army failed miserably in their assault due to Rick's superior leadership, and an enraged Governor slaughtered his army, gunning them down before leaving with his subordinates Martinez and Shupert.

After being abandoned by the two, the Governor became a wanderer, eventually finding a small group of survivors living in abandoned apartment building, becoming lovers with a woman named Lily Chambler, friends with her sister Tara, and a father figure to her daughter Meghan. After the group abandoned the apartment complex, the Governor discovered a new group of survivors led by Martinez. After earning the trust of the group, the Governor kills Martinez by feeding him to a pit of walkers, then in turn kills his second-in-command, Pete. The Governor convinces the rest of the group join him in leading an assault on the prison, claiming that its safer for the group as a whole.

Ambushing and capturing two of Rick's group members, Michonne and Hershel, the group's doctor, the Governor led the militia to the prison, demanding that Rick and his group leave. Rick, desperate to keep his group safe, attempted to broker a deal with the Governor, trying to convince him that they could share the prison. The Governor angrily calls Rick a liar and kills Hershel, causing a massive firefight that destroys most of the prison and lures in dozens of walkers. During the chaos, the Governor attacks Rick, savagely beating him and nearly strangling him, only to be stabbed in the back and left for dead by Michonne. Dying, the Governor is killed by Lily, who realizes what a monster he truly was after he mercy kills her infected daughter.

Carnegie, Redridge, and six of his militia will charge with...
Weight: 2.5 Pounds
 * Melee: Machete

Length: 18 Inches (Blade), 22 Inches (Total) Capacity: 13 Rounds
 * Pistol 1: Browning Hi-Power

Caliber: 9x19 Parabellum

Weight: 2.2 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 335 Meters Per Second/1,100 Feet Per Second

Range: 50m

Carried by Carnegie Capacity: 15 Rounds
 * Pistol 2: Beretta 92FS

Caliber: 9x19 Parabellum

Weight: 2 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 381 Meters Per Second/1,250 Feet Per Second

Range: 50m

Carried By Redridge Capacity: 8+1 Rounds
 * Shotgun: Mossberg 500

Caliber: 12 Gauge

Weight: 5.5 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 403 Meters Per Second/1325 Feet Per Second

Range: 40m

Pump Action Shotgun Capacity: 30 Rounds
 * Rifle 1: AK-47

Caliber: 7.62x39mm M43/M67

Weight: 8.8 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 715 Meters Per Second/2,350 Feet Per Second

Range: 400m

Rate of Fire: 600 RPM Capacity: 20 Rounds
 * Rifle 2: FN FAL 50.63

Caliber: 7.62x51mm NATO

Weight: 8.4 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 810 Meters Per Second/2,657 Feet Per Second

Range: 600m

Rate of Fire: 700 RPM Caliber: 85mm Warhead
 * Explosive: Norinco Type 69 RPG

Weight: 12.3 Pounds

Range: 200m (Effective), 600 (Maximum) Weight: 60 Pounds
 * Special: Gatling Gun

Caliber: .45-70

Multiple Barrels

Mounted on a The Back of A Vehicle

The Governor, Martinez, and six militia men will attack with...
Weight: 1 Pound
 * Melee: Bowie Knife

Length: 12 Inches (Blade), 16 Inches (Total) Capacity: 13 Rounds
 * Pistol 1: Beretta 92SB Nickel

Caliber: 9x19 Parabellum

Weight: 2 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 381 Meters Per Second/1,250 Feet Per Second

Range: 50m Capacity: 7 Rounds
 * Pistol 2: Colt MK IV Series 70

Caliber: .45 ACP

Weight: 2.44 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 251 Meters Per Second/845 Feet Per Second

Range: 50m Capacity: Dual 7 Round Selectable Tubes, 14 In Total
 * Shotgun: UTAS UTS-15

Caliber: 12 Gauge

Weight: 6.9 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: Unknown

Range: Unknown

Bullpup Pump Action Shotgun Capacity: 30 Rounds
 * Rifle 1: Steyr AUG A1

Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO

Weight: 7.9 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 970 Meters Per Second/3,182 Feet Per Second

Range: 300m-2,700m

Rate of Fire: 680-750 RPM Capacity: 20 Rounds
 * Rifle 2: M14

Caliber: 7.62x51mm NATO

Weight: 10.7 Pounds

Muzzle Velocity: 850 Meters Per Second/2,800 Feet Per Second

Range: 460m-800m

Rate of Fire: 700-750 RPM Caliber: 84mm
 * Explosive: AT4

Weight: 14.8 Pounds

Range: 300m-2,100m

Muzzle Velocity: 290 Meters Per Second/950 Feet Per Second Capacity: Belt Fed
 * Special: Browning M2HB

Caliber: .50 BMG (12.7x99mm NATO)

Weight: 83.78 Pounds

Range: 1,800m-6,800m

Mounted on a Vehicle

Explanations

 * Carnegie easily takes mental health. While he isn't the most mentally healthy person, he's better than The Governor, who is a psychopath willing to kill almost anyone. Hell, he kept his infected daughter with him in a room in Woodbury. That's pretty messed up.
 * Both of these men are vastly intelligent masterminds willing to think up a plan to get what they want. But Carnegie studies past rulers like Mussolini so he has more tactics in his mind. Carnegie gets the edge.
 * The Governor easily takes brutality. He has killed off many people like acting as an innocent survivor to some military personel then killing them with his militia. Carnegie will easily act like a nice guy too but will act brutal mainly if it involves Eli's Bible.
 * In The Book of Eli world, not many people are alive outside the small towns littered around the planet. Not many people get into fights. In The Walking Dead world, you're in combat almost everyday and have to defend yourself from Walkers.
 * The Governor will be wearing his eyepatch in this battle. Thus his vision is impaired and won't see much. But it is good to mention that still he is a pretty good shot. Meanwhile Carnegie wears glasses, so he too doesn't have the best vision. At least he has both of his eyes unlike The Governor.
 * Carnegie most likely doesn't get into the training with his men, as he's too busy trying reading books. Meanwhile The Governor has training from his time in Woodbury and his Militia.
 * Both of these men most likely have the same training, as they're both armed militias with very little training prior to the apocalpyse. Carnegie's men are members of his town while the Militia while The Governor's militia are people from Martinez's camp.
 * Carnegie's men are illiterate and don't have an education. The Governor's militia most likely have an education as their event was pretty recent compared to the catasrophe of The Book of Eli. For reference, the nuclear event of The Book of Eli took place 30 years before the events of the film.

​Edges
​Edge: Carnegie Edge: The Governor Edge: Carnegie Edge; The Governor Edge: The Governor ​Edge: Carnegie Edge: Carnegie Edge: The Governor
 * Melee: While The Governor is really efficent with his Bowie Knife, the machete has the longer blade and that is always good.
 * Pistol 1: Both of these pistols shoot the 9x19 Parabellum round, hold 13 rounds, and have the same range. However the Beretta 92SB Nickel has a higher muzzle velocity, which means that each bullet does it bit more damage each shot and it's barely lighter.
 * Pistol 2: Now both of these guns are amazing. The Colt shoots a stronger round but the 92FS is lighter, has a higher muzzle velocity, and holds more rounds. The 92FS is superior despite its weaker round and the Colt's reliability.
 * Shotgun: Now the UTAS is a pretty new shotgun, developed by Turkey a while back. The Mossberg 500 is a standard pump action shotgun, nothing else to it really. But the UTAS has a higher capacity and the dual tubes means that you don't have to reload as often. Think of it as having duct tape magazines on a gun but with a shotgun.
 * Rifle 1:The AK-47 is a classic gun that has been used for over half a century and is a personal favorite of mine. It shoots a pretty strong round but it's outclassed here. As the AUG is so much better as it has a faster rate of fire, is more accurate, the bullpup design makes aiming easier, has a better range, and has a better muzzle velocity.
 * Rifle 2: The FN FAL is superior in my opinion. The M14 has always had trouble with its recoil and rate of fire. The FAL on the other hand is more accurate, has a faster rate of fire, and has less recoil all while delivering the strength the M14 has.
 * Explosive: The Type 69 is a Chinese RPG-7 copy, so it's a solid explosive. The AT4 is a good anti vehicular weapon but not as good for anti personnel combat. The Type 69 is much better since it's lighter and is lighter despite not having as good a range as the AT4.
 * Special: Both of these guns are heavy, hard hitting, and have poor mobility. But the Browning is more modern and can tear people to shreads. The Gatling Gun has a huge issue, you have to keep cranking it to shoot and that's not as good as just pulling a trigger like on the Browning.

Setting
Where should this battle take place? The Prison (The prison that The Governor invades in 'Too Far Gone' Carnegie's Town (The town Carnegie runs)

Next Battle
Which battle would you like to see next? Miyo Takano (Higurashi Series) vs. Harry Callahan (Dirty Harry Series) Hanna Heller (Hanna) vs. Yuno Gasai (Future Diary/Mirai Nikki) Vladimir Makarov (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Series) vs. Richard Marcinko (Non-Fiction)

Voting

 * Voting will end on the 21st of Feburary.
 * Votes the are one sentence, one word, biased, or just plain shitty don't count.

Battle
Carnegie: 8

The Governor: 8

TBW