User blog comment:Cfp3157/Ride Immortal, Beasts of War: Immortan Joe vs. Commandant/@comment-5232784-20160608152323/@comment-5232784-20160610012705

Wandering Skull

1. Immortan Joe may have made some blunders when it comes to leadership and tactics, but not enough to have his own people turn on him (Yes, his religious status played a part in this, but just because you proclaim yourself a god doesn't mean that everyone following you are 100% loyal, or that you are safe from rebellion or treason (Treason was a crime even in ancient Egypt, where Pharaohs were considered Gods. Roman Ceasars were believed to become gods after death (not wise to rebel or commit treason against a future god), yet several were assassinated (Caligula and Dominitian come to mind). Indeed, some of Immortan Joe's own people turned on him, showing that the cult of Immortan Joe did not guarantee safety from turncoats). However, though the Commadant wasn't considered a god, he did drug his troops, which turned them into "Mindless Drones" as Cfp stated in this blog, something a real leader wouldn't have to do in order to gain allegiance.

Immortan Joe leads people during an apocalypse, ensuring they survive. Natural resources are at an all time low, but he secures enough to keep people alive and in great numbers at his compound. His pride did not cause his people to rebel, unlike the Commadant. The Commadant wouldn't have a clue how to deal with the issues of harsh survival Immortan Joe does.

Plus, when it comes to tactics, the Commadant isn't perfect either (like Immortan Joe, he also loses in the end. His stupidity and pride caused his troops to suffer enormous casualties from air strikes and ambushes (as if that wasn't expected from him killing his leutenant and fleeing justice, taking his troops with him. Genius award of the month).

2. Just because your not a professional soldier doesn't mean that you cant use an SKS rifle with a scope with as much effectiveness as a soldier. You can train a civilian in the Navy Seals martial arts program, and they will be just as good as any Navy Seal. You can teach a civilian to fire a pistol used by any military in the world, and eventually, they will use it as well as any soldier. Teach them to shoot a sniper rifle just like a soldier, they will be effective as a soldier in sniping. Doing push ups, peeling potatoes and knife combat training doesn't make you a better sniper: rifle training makes you a better marksman. After all, soldiers were originally civilians that were trained to be troops, and they learned it. The British auxiliaries, a secret force of armed British civilians who were ready to launch guerilla warfare against German troops if they had invaded, were highly trained in weaponry, but weren't professional soldiers. Yet, if the Germans had invaded, they would have slaughtered large numbers of German troops (Professional soldiers) before they were eventually defeated.

3. Yes, the war boys use a lot of thunder sticks in the film, but the thing to remember is that they were fighting a few people (Mad Max, Carlize Theron's character), not an equally sized army. When you launch an army against 1 or 2 people, you'll be prone to underestimate your opponent, but you wont do so against an equal sized force. Immortan Joe isn't stephen Hawking intelligent, but he is not so dumb that he would say "Okay, all of you charge those machine gunners, riflemen and pistol wielding troops with thundersticks, get killed, and die so that I can be shot to death!". No, he has the proper weapons, his war boys are trained with them, and he will have them use such weapons at his disposal.

Plus, unlike Mad Max, Immortan Joe's wives and offspring wont be in the Commadant's possession, so he doesn't need to hold anything back from the start.

TBC