User blog comment:Tomahawk23/Arrow Villains Vs. Nolan Villains/@comment-5465602-20140131142131

BeastMan14's "A deal is a deal" Edges

Hand-to-Hand
A close edge, but I'm giving it to Malcolm here. Ra's is a tough foe up close, but Bruce was ultimately able to take him down in their final battle (without having to kill him, I might add), and his fight with Bane shows that Bruce is far from a master of League of Shadows fighting style. Malcolm's younger than Ra's, giving him an edge in physicality, and I'd argue he's stronger too, while his own fighting style proved to be more than a match for Oliver, who spent five years of his life training in numerous fighting styles and building his strength. A close edge, no doubt, but Malcolm's younger, stronger, and ultimately, a superior close-range fighter. Edge: Malcom Meryln

Weapons
First, I'm gonna say that the Kunai's and the Shuriken's balance each other out as ranged weapons. Secondly, Malcom goes into this edge with a range advantage in the form of his bow, which can be used as an effective ranged and melee weapon, while Ra's has only his sword and his gauntlets. Also, a lot of people (cough, Skully and Leo, cough) are pointing out how Ra's gauntlets will break both Meryln's bow and sword, and while this is partially true, I'd also like to point out how this is entirely situational, and relies largely on whether or not Malcolm can strike Ra's faster than he can block a sword/bow entirely different than from what the gauntlets are meant to block. Malcolm's ultimately younger, stronger, faster, and better armed than Ra's is, enabling him to take this edge. Edge: Malcolm Meryln

Overall Edge
Malcom Meryln. It's a close edge, like a lot of edges in this fight will be, but despite Ra's experience and training, Malcolm's simply the superior fighter up-close, and add in his massive range advantage, and you've got a win for the Arrow villians. Edge: Arrow Villians

Overall Edge
I'm really not gonna spend too much time talking about this stomp. Deadshot is a superior sniper with a superior sniper rifle, alongside having vastly more advanced tech and experience to back him up against Barsad. Add in his poisoned bullets that allow him to rain hell on both Barsad and the Nolan team in general, and you've got one of Team Arrow's strongest members. Edge: Arrow Villains

Weapons
I don't know guns really well, so I'm just gonna assume the Joker's custom Glock is superior to China's Lady Smith, but at a range is the only area the Joker holds his own in the weapons category. China is a VASTLY superior hand-to-hand fighter, and if push comes to shove up close, China will be able to take down the Joker without a huge amount of difficulty. Edge: China White

Minions
I've never really been all that big on the Joker gang as a group of criminals, mainly because they never seem to work together well, last all that long against any form of organized foe, or follow a plan effectively. The Triad gangsters are equally ruthless, better organized, and much better fighters, which enables them to cinch this edge. Edge: China White

Overall Edge
Even. I know right? China White won both my edges, so she should technically win this, but the Joker has one ace up his stylish sleeve. He's a genius tactician and a ruthless sociopath with no care for any of his own casualties, which means that while China and her men are superior fighters, the Joker's superior and much more ruthless tactics will enable them to to haggle them at every corner with his own men, forcing this particular part of the fight to a tie. Edge: Even

Hand-to-Hand
I'll give it to Bane here, but narrowly. Bane is an absolute master of hand-of-hand styles, capable of curbstomping Bruce and a half dozen security guards like it was absolutely nothing. Billy, while skilled, relies largely on his sword as a major part of his fighting style, and he gets his ass kicked by Yao Fei even when he has an advantage. Edge: Bane

Weapons
I don't remember Bane having a gauntlet in the style of the League, maybe you were referring to his arm brace that he's wearing? Anyway, while Billy is the only one with real weapons in this case, it's still a major edge for him, thanks to the swords lethality and range over Bane's fists. Edge: Billy Wintergreen

Overall Edge
Bane. This is a brutally close edge, but what tips it in Bane's favor is his superior ability to back up the League of Shadows duders in the battle, giving him a massively crucial edge over Billy, who prefers to work without back-up. Edge: Nolan Villians

Weapons
The M1911 takes this edge, easy. It's a vastly superior weapon over the snub-nose thanks to its superior range, rounds per clip, fire rate, and the fact that the guy wielding it is a superiorly trained mercenary. Edge: Edward Fyers

Back-Up
Despite the inferiority of Fyers mercenaries when compared to the League of Shadows, I'd argue their numbers advantage and superior leader (Fyers actually led his men in battles, while Two-Face wasn't aware of his men's existence duh) is enough to make it even. Edge: Even

Overall Edge
Can you feeeeeeel, the stomp tonight? Anyway, Fyers should take this fairly easily. He's a much smarter, better trained, much more experienced, more sane, and better armed warrior, outclassing Harvey Dent in almost every regard. Edge: Arrow Villains

Weapons
What gives the edge to Scarecrow here is an edge that plays a consistent role in this battle. Range. Scarecrow's gas and Jericho enables him to effortlessly outrange the Count and his men, giving him a significant range edge. Edge: Scarecrow

Back-Up
I'm fairly even here. There's nothing really different about either villains goons. Edge: Even

Overall Edge
Scarecrow. As much as I hate this incarnation of Scarecrow (his actual role in the movies is mostly minor at best), he's got the better weapons, and the better means of distributing his gas to enemies.

Overall Deadliest Group
The Arrow Villians. While my vote won't really change the stomp at all (as per most of my votes nowadays D:) and it's a brutal close fight, the Arrow Villains are simply superior fighters than the Nolan Villains. They're smarter, they're stronger, they're better trained, and they're better armed. The Nolan villains are mostly burdened by Christopher Nolan's need for realism, and it drags them down a lot when compared to the Arrow villains. Score: 515-485