User blog comment:Tomahawk23/Arrow Villains Vs. Nolan Villains/@comment-5559147-20140205012717

Not that it matters much one way or the other, but I'll go ahead and vote

Let begin with Ra's vs Merlyn, breaking down weapons edges.

"Long Range"

This seems to be shurikan vs bow and this doesn't bode well for the shurikan as they don't have the bows range, power, or accuracy. They might be lighter, more concealable, and argubable easier to use as a short range projectile, but the range at which they might be more usefull is very small. As the bow it the better long range and melee weapon. EDGE: Merlyn

"Close Range"

So ninjato vs scimitar. The scimitar is longer,  heavier (giving greater striking power ) and the curved blade is likely to help with cutting, but it still retains enough of a point to stab. EDGE: Merlyn

"Special"

Gauntlet vs Kunai. The gauntlet has defensive and offesive options and if it like Batman's it may even have a ranged option. EDGE: Ra's

As for the warriors themselves. Ra's while in my opinion displaying better technique/skill in fighting then anybody else in the Nolan trilogy. Honestly did very little of it and what we do see him do is relatively run of the mill for the underworld denzines of Starling City. Same can be said for his stealth abilities, while they have drawn a lot of praise here. I don't much recall him employing them, his ninjas did, Bruce did, but Ra's was the walk up and talk to his enemy type. Monologue, brag etc. Even if we attribute others stealth skills to him. Nobody in those films did anything stealth wise that wasn't a casual saturday night for Oliver and Merlyn made Oliver like a chump. In other words Merlyn has better weapons, Ra's isn't sneaking up on him, and given that he has better displayed fighting feats, not to mention greater agility/dexterity, not to mention reaction time, dude caught an arrow afer all. So yeah my vote goes to the guy with better weapons and physical abilities.

EDGE: Malcolm Merlyn

Barsad vs Deadshot

Honestly this doesn't seem fair, but I'll run it down anyhow

"Close range"

Beretta 92fs and Uzi vs wrist turret. The Uzi at least probably has better range and given the general shape of the weapons and sight (the shooter not with standing ) the Beretta and Uzi are probably more accurate, Also the size of those turrets and the number of rounds seemingly fired suggest low caliber. That said they do appear to hold more rounds and are easier to access/quicker to deploy and can be used easier together or even with the M1A. So EDGE: Evenish, but leaning Barsad.

"Long Range"

G36C and Barrett vs M1A. The M1A is in some ways the best of both worlds between it opponents, but is going to be arguabley out matched by either in their respective niches. Its not on the level of the Barrett as a true sniper system have neither its range nor power, while it weight, length, and generaly smaller mag is going to make it more cumbersome then the G36 as a general service combat rifle. That said it alone is going to way less then both combined an allow the operator to better perform both tasks with out having to switch weapons. Still EDGE: Evenish, but leaning Barsad.

Before I move on to the warriors themselves. It needs to be said, while Barsads "kit" may be more lethal or deadly in a technical sense. It is going to be rather clumsy and cumbersome to carry/use and if he dumps some of it, then whether he retains his edge or not is in question. In essence, while I think he may not win specific weapons catagories I think over all the weapons/kit edge goes to Deadshot.

On second thought. Even Barsad weapons be more lethal is questionable to some degree as Deadshots are poisoned so are deadly beyond their simple ballistic properties.

On to the warriors, where things only get worse for Barsad. Who had little screen time and showed no particularly note worthy skills and in this case is up against world class assassin who managed to briefly hold his own against Oliver who would destroy anyone ( save maybe Bane ) in the Nolan Batman movies. At best Barsad is at Diggle's level ( though I doubt it as Diggle is at about the level of the top tier fighter in the Nolan trilogy ) and we know how that turned out for Diggle.

EDGE: Deadshot.

Joker vs China White

Normally I'd start by comparing weapons, but its 4 vs 2 in the case of the bosses and explosives and a Glock are going to beat a Smith and Wesson and a pipe and knife have more options then just a knife.

That said China White was a decent match for Oliver. Where as puppy dogs did half of Jokers fighting against an opponent that was not in Olver's proverbial weight class. Short version is China White has shown action movie level martial arts, Joker has not.

As for their gangs, China has trained experienced "soldiers" who are used to working with her and/or her orginization and respect and understand her and/or that orginization. Joker has a bunch loons and street thugs that'd just as soon kill each other as the triad. Not to mention the the Triad has for what it worth more versitility/options in weapons.

EDGE: China White

Next Up

Bane, Two-Face, and the LoS vs Wintergreen, Fyers, and his mercs. So lets take it one step at a time

Bane vs Wintergreen

Their is little to discuss as far as weapons, but

Gauntlet vs Sword. Yes the gaunlet may break the sword, but only under specific circumstances the sword on the othe hand is a far better offensive weapon. Owing to it length and cutting ability. EDGE: Wintergreen.

As for the men themselves. Bane seems to hold the edge in strength and damage soak, little in the way of blunt trauma seems to phase him. Wintergreen on the other hand is faster, more agile and seems to have more varied skill set in terms of fighting. Where as Bane is predominatly a puncher. Wintergreen employs a number of kicks, throws etc. Having a sword also means that Billy doesn't have to rely on blunt trauma. Considering a gun took him down I can't see Bane walking away from a sword thru the heart. Which considering Wintergreens faster reaction time ( again near point blank arrow catching ) and mobility shoudn't be hard for him to achieve.

EDGE: Bill Wintergreen, this is the closest so far and probably in this match and if Bane can disarm Wintergreen he can pull out a win. In fact this is almost even, but I'm leaning Wintergreen.

Two Face vs Fyers

For the heck of it weapons.

Snub Nose revolver, I wanna say Smith and Wesson 64  vs Colt 1911. The revolver is the more reliable platform. However the 1911 is about as reliable as you can get with an automatic pistol, the .45 acp  packs a mean punch and it carries a couple extra rounds per mag, its also going to be easier to reload etc. EDGE: Fyers.

Except of course that on closer inspection Fyers gun in the series anyhow is a Star Model B. So It'd fire a 9mm, not much different from the Model 64's 38 and is not as reliable as the Colt M1911. On the other hand the capacity is greater then the 1911. So it likely still takes the edge, but its closer.

On to the men themselves.

Harvey Dent could throw a punch and was cool under fire. Two Face on the other hand was not. Fyers while light on displayed skill/feats could use a fire arm and keep himself mostly composed under fire. EDGE: Fyers

Now

Bane's League of Shadows vs Fyers Mercs.

Lets begin with weapons.

"close range"

Glocks vs 1911's

As I recall most the Glock used by the League were in 9mm, where as 1911 are traditionally chambered in .45 so the mercs have the larger round and perhaps the more robust weapon on the other hand the League's Glock is lighter and has better mag capacity. Personally I prefer the more reliable weapon with better stopping power. EDGE: Mercs

"Mid range"

Uzi vs QCW-05

Quick note though I don't recall Fyers mercs uzi the QCW-05, China Whites Triad used them and the Mercs used full sized QBZ assault rifles. IIRC the Merc's SMG was an MP5 varient.

Regardless between the two weapons given. About the only things the QCW-05 has going for it is that it silenced ( which has limited application in a stand up fight like this ), higher mag capacity, and it might have slightley better ergonomics owing to a full stoke and frame. The Uzi on the other hand is lighter, smaller, more powerfull, has a greater effective range etc. EDGE: LoS

"Long Range"

G36 vs AK

I'm sure some will disagree, but the simplicity, reliablity, and power of the AK out weigh the advantages the G36 has. Among them range and weight. EDGE: Mercs

Uhh "Longer Range"

Barrett vs SVD

We all know the advantages the Barrett has being the more powerfull weapon with the longer range. That said this seems to be ( at least these battles generaly are ) small unit meeting engagments. Where time to set up and position a sniper are not allowed. In this situations the smaller size of the SVD and the mobility it allows will be bigger factors then range and power. In essence whil the Barrett is the better sniper system, the SVD is the better marksmen weapon and thats what's going to be needed in a confrontation like this, EDGE: Mercs

So lets talk about the Mercs and the LoS. For fairness I'm going to assume that the League members in use here are the kind that took the plane in the begining, not the mass of prisoner and random people Bane put together latter. So their training/skill may be better then Fyers men, how much better though is a question. After all the mercs did get the drop on Yoa Fei. Between at worst decent training, more reliable weapons, and greater numbers EDGE: Mercs

Scarecrow vs Vertigo

For the weapons the Jericho's capacity, range, and accuracy are likely going to edge out what ever edge the snub nose may hold in reliability,

As for their special weapons ( if you will ) Vertigo is more lethal, but fear gas is easier to deploy and has better range. I'm inclined to call this even.

As for the men themselves. Vertigo seems far more competent in combat, though possible less mentally stable. This is close to being even, close enough in fact that. EDGE: Even, Vertigo is physically better and and his drug is more lethal, but Scarecrow has the better gun and more easily deployable drug.

Now for the over all edge. I think most can guess where this is going, but all say it anyway.

Over all edge and the...

DEADLIEST WARRIOR: Arrow Villain.

In the end they tended to pack the better weapons and over all had better combat and physical skills.

Truth is the Nolan Villains had several people who were either not combat oriented like Scarecrow or had little experience with it like Two-Face or didn't have enough screen time to show it off ( if they had it ) like Basard or for all the hype didn't display a whole lot of skill like the Joker.