User blog comment:MilitaryBrat/Hal Jordan vs Darth Vader/@comment-1683193-20131028175901/@comment-2149911-20131101222732

Fine. Fine. If you want me to rebuttle all what the second anon and Geomax are saying then I will.

@Geomax, Hal Jordan can defeat a Stardestroyer, but not the way I used as an example before, because that's just not the way Hal Jordan would do it. In fact, the way Hal Jordan would do it is like this. He would sneak into the Stardestroyer, destroy everything on the inside, and try to save as much casualties as possible before the ship explodes, because that's what Hal Jordan does as a Green Lantern. Save people, whether they be on the good side or bad side, he would save the enemy and take them so they can face trials for their crime. He would destroy the ship, so it will not go into the wrong hands, because he's a hero and he doesn't want to see anymore lives lost. But then again, easier said than done right? He'd be having a bunch of guards wailing on him with lasers and what not.

Also you are forgetting one thing. A Stardestroyer is a GODDAMN SHIP! It's a husk of metal With no train of human thought. A battleship built for space combat and weaponry strong enough to destroy cities, because that's what it's built for. It can't think for itself. Hell, it be possible for a group of fiercly tacticianal people to sneak in the ship, easier said than done, and take the ship for themselves or just blow it up from the inside. What the hell is the point of bringing a ship to a conversation when we are talking about two individuals combating, and even then these two fighters have complete different moral codes that would affect their fight.

Level of Power? Yeah sure Green Lantern is a pretty powerful fighter, hell was once a near omnipotent villain, but sacrficed himself to save the universe. He was once the powerful Spectre, but was given a second chance at life to become a GL  again. Yes the Green Lantern ring holds a lot of power, but it all depends on how the wielder uses it and the way Hal uses it now is not the way you describe him to be. Yes he used it to survive a Nuke, but from what I say in those images was this.

1. It took alot of willpower and pure instinct to survive to uphold that shield that long.

2 He was crouched down on the ground holding his head. I'm pretty sure he survived all the radiation, but he still took on some of the blunt trauma in the end.

Also to be honest Hal Jordan does hold back the true power he can wield and that can be used as a disadvantage too him as well. Hal Jordan is powerful, but not the way you describe him. Mainly because you don't know the way he acts and don't give a shit to care. All you want to say is "HER DER HAL CAN JUST BLOW THE PLANET UP BECUZ HE CAN DUR...." not even reconsidering how this not the way Hal Jordan would act. You can do that in Factpile or whatever, but not here. Because here, staying true to the character matters.

Actually I don't even know why you come here in the first place. You never do any battles no more and you hardly ever come to chat and be in a conversation. All you do is just say stuff and try to stir things up when they don't need to be.

Now for the anons.

''1. Hal can just put Vader in a green bubble and toss him into space. Now, before people say that "Hal would never do that" or "Have you ever read any GL comics?" or something, please note that Hal has done this kind of Combat Pragmatism before. Like that battle with Solomon Grundy, where Hal just picked Grundy up and tossed him to the sun. Or that time in JLA Golden Perfect where Hal managed to lasso a big golem and lift him up to the upper atmosphere. I doubt Vader has anything to counter this move.''

Source please. I cannot find any picture or in the biography of both warriors to find that specfically Hal Jordan has grabbed Solomon Grundy and thrown him into the sun, granted I doubt he would do that or it would be possbile with Grundy's tremendous strength and undying willpower. What I did find though was Bizzaro throwing BLACK LANTERN Grundy into the sun to destroy him. In JLA: Golden Perfect, that wasn't Hal Jordan, because Hal Jordan was the Spectre (I think at that time). It was Kyle Raynor, who is not Hal Jordan. I'm pretty sure a Golem is a monstorous being made of rock and granted the villan for that arc was Rama Khan, who has the magic to create such a being, it was not alive and didn't have a mind of its own( don't try to bullshit me and say it does) and even then Raynor just chucked it into the amosphere, it probably landed and was crushed to many pieces. Vader is an actual living being, who chose the choices he made, has done horrible tragedies on his own record, and is liable for his action. Hal Jordan would not kill him outright, that's not the Green Lantern way, he would still put him in the court of law so he can aprrehended for his action.

So what this anon did was ASSUME he would do that and used the wrong source material.

Also even if Hal gets Vader into a green bubble shield construction, wouldn't Vader just Force Choke him to let him go. I mean the Force Choke is not a mental attack, he's actually Chocking the f--k out of people with The Force. Hal is still a normal human being underneath the ring and stilll needs his neck to breath, and I think it will bullshit if you just say it won't work, because it will. Hal is a strongwilled person, but he still needs to breath to think. Granted if this does happen, which it will, he has two choices. Either focus all of his energy in the shield to make it smaller so he will stop, or try to focus all of his will power to stop Vader from chocking him and let's go of the shield in the process. He can't just win this fight so easily, because nothing is ever easy. GL is not undefeatable for godsakes.

''2. Hal can fly, and is REALLY Fast like FTL fast. He has shown being capable of travelling galaxies in mere min/hours. And is shows to toe with Superman in flying speed. He can outfly a supersonic jet that can fly Mach 2 speed. Not to mention that Hal CAN FLY INTO SPACE. Vader on the otherhand is slow. Even with the force Vader can't catch Hal in superspeed. Hal can just bombard Vader from a distance.''

Yes I know he can fly fast, because he has to so he can get into different locations across the universe, I don't know why you have say in bold letters HAL CAN FLY INTO SPACE, even though we already knew he can. See here's the thing, even though he can fly fast, how come in every fight he's been in all these years, he never really used that ability? I mean if he can fly that fast, then it wouldbe impossbile for his enemies, earth or extraterrestrial, not to hurt him. Even though he gets hurt and bashed at numerous times. From the comics I've seen Hal in, he's always fighting up close and personal. Using his shield to block attacks and using other constructs or blasts to fight back., and that's what he's going to do, because he's fucking Hal Jordan. I'm not assuming jack shit, you are assuming ALOT Mr. Anon sir.

Then again, aren't all battles between different characters from different medias based on assumption? We can't predict what would really happen in a fight, or how one concept of power affects another, so we just assume it can hurt them in one way. Saying someone is assuming is an invalid argument is just plain stupid, because an anon like yourself are assuming just like everyone else.

Personally I believe Hal Jordan would defeat Darth Vader in a fight, granted it would not be easy. The only reason I came into this argument, is because I was seeing such ignorant rebuttles going on without much consideration based on how the actual character would react. Nobody puts themselves  in eyes of Hal Jordan and think about what he would do in this situation. It basically went like this "Hal Jordan is gonna blow up this guy ,because fuck you that's what I said" Not even thinking about his moral standing, just what THEY think he should do.

That's my goddamn Rebuttle. I went all Wu-Tang Clan on y'all sucka C-cyphers and conquered. So please either concede, give an intellectual argument, or just stop showering me with ignorance.