User blog:Thundrtri/Season 1 Episode 12: GROM VS Spetsnaz GRU



GROM, Poland's elite and primary special forces,

Or,

Spetsnaz GRU, the elite Russian commandos who will stop at nothing to get the job done

Who,

Is,

Deadliest?!

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In the 1970s and 1980s, there were several formations of special forces units within Poland, but these were either trained in purely military tasks (sabotage, disruption of communications and such) or in purely counter-terrorist roles. After the Polish embassy in Bern was taken over by a group of four Polish emigrants calling themselves Polish Revolutionary Home Army in 1982, General Edwin Rozłubirski proposed that a clandestine military unit be established to counter the threat from terrorism and other unconventional threats. This proposal, however, was initially rejected by the People's Army of Poland.

In 1989, many Jews were allowed to emigrate from the Soviet Union to Israel. Poland was one of the handful of countries that provided aid in the form of organization for the operation, later dubbed Operation Bridge (Operacja Most). After two Polish diplomats were shot in Beirut, Lt. Col. Sławomir Petelicki was sent to Lebanon to secure the transfer of civilians and the Polish diplomatic outposts.

Upon his return to Poland, he presented his plan for the creation of a special military unit to the Ministry of Interior, a force that would be trained in special operations to be deployed in the defense of Polish citizens in situations similar to the one in Lebanon. Petelicki's ideas were well received, and on July 13, 1990,[1 ] [2 ] GROM was formally established as JW 2305.

Spetsnaz GRU


The concept of using special forces tactics and strategies was originally proposed by the Russian military theorist Michael Svechnykov (executed during the Great Purge in 1938), who envisaged the development of unconventional warfare capabilities in order to overcome disadvantages that conventional forces may face in the field. Practical implementation was begun by the "grandfather of the spetsnaz" Ilya Starinov. During World War II, reconnaissance and sabotage forces were formed under the supervision of the Second Department of the General Staff of the Soviet Armed Forces‎. These forces were subordinate to the commanders of Fronts.[3]

The situation was reviewed after the war ended, and between 1947 and 1950 the whole of GRU was reorganized. The first "independent reconnaissance companies of special purpose" were formed in 1949, to work for tank and combined-arms armies. The primary function of Spetsnaz troops in wartime was infiltration/insertion behind enemy lines (either in uniform or civilian clothing), usually well before hostilities are scheduled to begin and, once in place, to commit acts of sabotage (such as the destruction of vital NATO communications logistics centers) and the assassination of key government leaders and military officers. In 1957, the first Spetsnaz battalions were formed, five to eliminate enemy nuclear weapons systems. The first brigades were formed in 1962, reportedly to reach up to 750 kilometres in the rear to destroy U.S. strategic weapons systems. Two 'study regiments' were established in the 1960s to train specialists and NCOs, the first in 1968 at Pechora near Pskov, and the second in 1970 at Chirchiq near Tashkent. According to Vladimir Rezun, a GRU defector who used the pseudonym "Viktor Suvorov", there were 20 GRU Spetsnaz brigades plus 41 separate companies at the time of his defection in 1978.

Its operations included Operation Storm-333, the successful mission to kill the Afghan president in 1979. During the 2000s, ethnic-Chechen Special Battalions Vostok and Zapad existed.

Since 2009-2010, Spetsnaz GRU forces have been disbanded,[4] and their former brigades were cut in size and turned into independent brigades and reconnaissance battalions attached to military districts of the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation and subordinate to the operational-strategic commands, due to Anatoliy Serdyukov's military reforms. In 2011, it was announced that some former Spetsnaz GRU personnel might return under control of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in some form separate and distinct from GRU, and answering directly to the General Staff.

Both resources from Wikipedia

GROM
Weapons explanation

SR-25: A semi automatic 7.62 caliber sniper rifle that carries 20 rounds in it's magazine

HK416: A lightweight 5.56 caliber assault rifle

Ka-Bar: A combat knife designed in WW2 that is still used by various forces today

M249: A 5.56 caliber light machine gun

M67: A typical frag grenade

Spetsnaz GRU
Weapons explanation

Dragunov SVD: A 7.62 firing sniper rifle that holds 10 rounds in it's magazine

AN-94: A 7.62 modified version of the AK-74 assault rifle

NRS shooting knife: A combat knife with a miniature gun in the handle that fires the 7.62

Makarov: A compact 9mm pistol

PKP: A 7.62 caliber light machine gun

RGD-5: A frag grenade

Battle notes
Battle will be 8 on 8

Battle will take place in a forested compound

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