User blog comment:WraithOfWaffle/Battle Five: The Punisher (The Punisher 2004 Movie) vs. The Joker (Nolanverse Batman)/@comment-5795750-20131215042341

BG1's "This is the movie version of these characters; wait for Las to bring out the comics version" Edges:

Knives - The switchblade may be simple to use but its simplicity is its downfall; Castle can use his butterfly knife with at least a great degree of skill

EDGE: Punisher

Pistols - I will have to say that the one extra round in the Glock plus its higher muzzle velocity is enough to even out the larger round of the M1911 and its higher rate of fire (while dual-wielding decreases accuracy for most people, it doesn't in the case of Castle)

EDGE: Even

Shotguns - The double-barreled shotgun requires quite a lot of reloading every now and again which is a problem not faced when using the Remington 870 (the fact they are sawed off is irrevelant here)

EDGE: Joker

SMGs - I believe Frank himself wielded two MP5A3s in the movie to devastating effect and without losing accuracy; that alone gives the edge here to Castle although I will say that using the guns properly, the edge here goes to the S&W M76 for dealing damage at a farther range

EDGE: Even (slightly tipping towards Punisher)

Rifles - The M4A1 is a rifle, the AKMSU is close to being termed a submachine gun and despite the latters rugged reliability shared by its ancestor the AK-47, the American-made M4A1 is more modern and can dish out greater damage from a further range

EDGE: Punisher

Explosive - The Norinco Type 69 packs the more explosive payload here and it has accuracy attached to it being a rocket that can zip straightly from A to B rather than the grenade launcher which fires in an arc, plus the grenade launcher doesnt do as much collateral damage as the Type 69

EDGE: Joker

X-Factors - Average of 87.5 for the Punisher, Average of 75.3 for the Joker

EDGE: Punisher

Overall: As much as I want the Joker to win because of his crazy anarchical way of killing people, I have to give this to the Thomas Jane version of The Punisher; unlike Nolan's adaptation of Batman, Hensleigh's adaptation of Punisher isn't scaled down to the point he is vulnerable to his enemies which means the Punisher of the films still maintains that degree of ruthlessness, experience, training and gunslinging skills his comic counterpart has; add to that Castle's near domination of the Weapons edges and you have yourself a winning warrior the Nolanverse Joker just can't scare the pants out of (but the comic book version of this battle might tell a different story)