User blog comment:Cfp3157/Ride Immortal, Beasts of War: Immortan Joe vs. Commandant/@comment-5232784-20160608152323/@comment-5232784-20160610033859

Now this is something I can work with.

1. I'm not assuming anything, other than the fact that we dont know how far the opponents will be from each other before the fighting starts. Considering this, we can say that the superior range of the SKS will be obsolete, because they will be 100 meters away from each other when the fighting commences: we dont know that. They might stumble upon each other a close range, they might spot each other from a distance, we dont know because we dont know how Cfp is going to write the scenario. Saying that the range of the SKS wont matter, because they are going to be fairly close to each other when the fighting starts, is a major assumption.

2. Your trying to frame this between a highly specialized force (the warboys preference for fighting in vehicles) to and a more versatile force (The Commadant's guerilla force), but once again, there is an assumption. The Movie Mad max shows a lot of vehicle combat, and why? Mad Max is driving away with Immortan Joe's women and offspring! Of course there's going to be a lot of vehicle violence (ground troops cannot run as fast as cars, so there's not going to be any war boys on foot during the chase).

3. Okay, now that's a very good argument. Based on your research, the warboys trigger and fire discipline, and their ability to keep their firearms in order, is lacking compared to the Commadant and his men. Now this is a good point, and I have no argument against it (though they can still fire their weapons (and I'm not convinced they cant do this with good accuracy). Nevertheless, otherwise their firearms training isn't as good, and I'll concede that.

4. Immortan Joe could order his men to close with their thundersticks, for sure at close quarters, but what I'm saying is, if his men are faced with an enemy who is a distance away, with rifles and machine guns already facing them, he wont waste his troops by having them run towards them in a suicide charge using only thundersticks. If you had an enemy force with machine guns and rifles aimed at your men, would you have your men charge with melee weapons? Not unless you're at very close quarters. Once again, we have to be careful about assumption, but if this batte does involve at times a distance between these troops, i.e. a distance outside the throwing range of a thunderstick, I doubt Immortan Joe would have his men charge against troops armed with guns that can pick them off long before they get within throwing distance, and such a scenario could indeed occur here. Not fanciful to think of every possibility.

5. Immortan Joe has warboys on-foot guarding his citadel, which alone shows that they are capable of fighting on their feet, and not traine solely for automobile combat. If your trained to fight with a thunderstick, a pistol, rifle or machine gun, you can use them whether on foot or in a vehicle. Every mounted warrior in history could fight on foot as well as on horse, tank, vehicle or whatever they're riding (Knights, Samurais, Mongols, Tank crews, etc). Why would warboys be the exception? Why wouldn't they be formidable on foot as well as on a vehicle?

6. "Immortan Joe's leadership is built on deprevation. He keeps his people in line by making sure they dont have access to what they need to live, keeping them barely above starvation."

Do These warboys look starved to you?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/film/mad-max-fury-road/mad-max-immortan-joe-xlarge.jpg They aren't undernourished, which wont lead to mental impairment.

TBC